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Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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There's a good chance she may have committed some light treason.

Legally speaking: Breaking and entering a federal government building, stealing information, conspiring with a foreign national to sell the information to a foreign state intelligence service. I think life sentences have been handed out for smaller forms of treason...

OP was making a reference to a recurring line in Arrested Development.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Can we say "the Russian government" or "the Russian secret services" or something similar? Why always this tone with the Russians, the Russians are wonderful people, like everyone else trying to live their lives with the hand they were dealt. Am I the only one that sees how offensive this trope is to about 150 million people?

Russian intelligence, first paragraph of the article.

But I agree with you. I make an effort to criticize the “PRC” and the “CCP” and not “China” for the same reason.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Can we say "the Russian government" or "the Russian secret services" or something similar? Why always this tone with the Russians, the Russians are wonderful people, like everyone else trying to live their lives with the hand they were dealt. Am I the only one that sees how offensive this trope is to about 150 million people?

The same appiles to "the Chinese". Heck, just look what happened to Asian Americans here at the beginning of the pandemic, when all we knew was that the virus started in China. "Kung Flu" and stuff, some people are just plain retarded.

Using a pejorative (retarded) to describe another is not very helpful.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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The fed were tipped off by an ex. The most telling part of the terrorist attack on the capital is how many family members, coworkers, and acquaintances couldn’t wait to turn them in. There was a story this morning about a wife turning in her husband for threatening to shoot their children if the children “snitched.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/capitol-rioter-guy-reffitt-thr...

Why does it feel like whenever these nimrods do something really really stupid or really really atrocious, there is always people coming out of the woodwork and trying to show that if you squint really hard while looking at the situation through a TV playing Fox or OAN you will find some part of it that's maybe possibly could be explained as something being off (but still requires a massive conspiracy)?

Like, what's more likely that this woman became radicalized by watching propaganda all day every day and in a misguided attempt to be a patriot committed a crime? Or that there is some massive web that at every turn explains why it's never the alt right's fault? Remember the 75 year old that was pushed down by the police in Buffalo, NY and cracked his skull on the pavement? Well if you believe some, he was wearing a blood sac in his mouth and there was a little tube you can kinda see in the video that allowed him to squirt the blood out and make it look like he was hurt. Someone legitimately tried to argue this with me, in an in-person discussion. And let's break it down:

1. Police officers that pushed him were either in on it, I guess with some ulterior motive to make themselves look bad, or were comically bad at showing any evidence or giving testimony that there was a blood sac.

2. The first responders that came didn't notice the lack of wound or the fake blood, or were also all in on it.

3. The bystanders did the same as above.

4. The probably at least a dozen hospital staff that interacted with the man in the multiple days that followed when he stayed in the hospital all ignored the fact that we wasn't actually hurt.

5. The hospital had him stay there for multiple days for no reason because, you know, our hospitals here are really awesome about letting people just stay if they aren't sick/hurt.

6. The multiple reporting crews that came to see him all failed to notice that he wasn't hurt.

7. The entire video is a deep fake or filmed in a controlled environment and none of it was real.

How hard do you have to squint to believe that any of the above is possible? And that's one story of thousands, each of which has an explanation as simple as "crisis actors" or "antifa staged it" or "false flag".

And back to the original assertion, what about the woman whose daughter tipped off the FBI? What about the siblings? Does everyone have a conflict of interest and we should dismiss all these cases because of them despite the photo and video evidence we have?

Sort yourself out.

Edit: video of the 75 year old man in Buffalo. Warning, this is graphic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeewU0HhNE

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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This sounds like something you'd read out of The Onion.

Or may be even similar to what happened in "Burn After Reading".

Indeed, the first thing I thought of when I saw this headline was the pair of clueless hustlers in the movie awkwardly trying to pitch what they believe to be a CD-R of classified information in the visitors area of the Russian embassy.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Can we say "the Russian government" or "the Russian secret services" or something similar? Why always this tone with the Russians, the Russians are wonderful people, like everyone else trying to live their lives with the hand they were dealt. Am I the only one that sees how offensive this trope is to about 150 million people?

I'm pretty sure we all know that the ultimate consumer of something like this is not a Russian neighborhood bread store owner, but the Russian government. I don't think it needs to be said to be understood.

Well, this language isn't useful, a Russian friend of mine, who is quite modern, not a fan of Putin or anything, said she'd prefer Trump to win, because Biden said "Russians are our enemy" (not sure if Biden actually said that, and even if he said "Russian government", the media could've edited "government" out of that quote).

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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> to Russians I don't understand why they say "to Russians" or "to the Russians" instead of "to Russian intelligence". It's like being Russian is the crime itself. They wouldn't write "tried to sell the computer to Jews".

Because it's a Reuters headline and they don't use "the" if they don't need to.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Can we say "the Russian government" or "the Russian secret services" or something similar? Why always this tone with the Russians, the Russians are wonderful people, like everyone else trying to live their lives with the hand they were dealt. Am I the only one that sees how offensive this trope is to about 150 million people?

I’m Syrian-American and I hate it when people say “the Syrians” when they really mean the barbaric Assad regime. I do, however, think it’s more out of stupidity than malice; it stems from a statist worldview rather than an intentional desire to demonize the people subject to a given state’s rule.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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The fed were tipped off by an ex. The most telling part of the terrorist attack on the capital is how many family members, coworkers, and acquaintances couldn’t wait to turn them in. There was a story this morning about a wife turning in her husband for threatening to shoot their children if the children “snitched.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/capitol-rioter-guy-reffitt-thr...

Somebody has to fill out the left half of the bell curve.

Makes you wonder what smarter people were able to accomplish that we haven't or will never hear about.
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