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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by hombre_fatal »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #132
DoreenMichele wrote: post #11

The gut is home to 70 to 80 percent of the immune cells in the body. It seems to me when you give it a break from a constant influx of food, that potentially frees up immune cells to do other things for a bit.

I do believe that makes sense and is part of the common "wisdom" of the diet. However more sizeable research studies need to be done in order to add strength to the hypothesis. These are far to small other than as pointers of what might be possible

There are hundreds of studies on NCBI about the benefits of fasting. Time to stop guessing that it's fringe science.

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Post by foepys »

Barrin92 wrote: post #102
ronyeh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…

>It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). If eating is part of your social or work life as it is for most people then not really. Or you're going to sit there sipping water while your family or your colleagues eat or have drinks which is miserable

Fasting is not easy. If you didn't restrict calories before and now want to lose weight quickly, you have to make some sacrifices.

If your social and/or work life heavily depends on eating together it might be part of the "problem" of why you need to lose weight in the first place.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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moneytide1 wrote: post #108
RmzH wrote: post #45

- Anticancer - Anti-diabetes - Anti-aging - Reduction in body mass index, waist circumference - Improvement in blood pressure

It makes sense to fast temporarily in order to "jolt" the body into action (reduced external input activates internal compensation processes) as our genetics have ancient embedded protocols developed to push through resource restrictions. If not for your listed reasons - do it to knock the rust off of safely stored emergency equipment. I've noticed that once you get past the first "hump" of hunger pangs, famish subsi…

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by [deleted] »

scott31 wrote: post #34

The "research" is politically motivated, it is thus garbage. Especially considering that it would be dangerous to publish the result if it were to show the other way, not that they would want to publish it. Besides, not having even a drop of water for longer than 12 hours during summer is dangerous, not only to fasting people themselves but to the society as a whole since they drive cars and they have higher rate of…

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by DoreenMichele »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #139
DoreenMichele wrote: post #11

The gut is home to 70 to 80 percent of the immune cells in the body. It seems to me when you give it a break from a constant influx of food, that potentially frees up immune cells to do other things for a bit.

Also frees up your entire body from being constantly bathed in hormones like insulin.

I sort of think of it like "maintenance downtime." It was my son that first suggested to me it helps by freeing up immune cells and letting them concentrate on other things for a bit and I think that makes a lot of sense.

I also suspect that dropping your blood sugar levels low enough, long enough helps starve some invaders. We are bigger than the bacteria in our system. We can survive for a bit without those resources. Maybe some of them can't.

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Post by zaphirplane »

erklik wrote: post #40
kranner wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have to account for increased rates of smoking in both Muslim-majority countries and Muslim populations in non-Muslim-majority countries. From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360407/ > A fifth of the world's population is Muslim, and most Muslims live in areas where the prevalence of smoking is high and often increasing. But even among the many Muslims living in Europe, smoking prevalence (partic…

That's interesting. I believe smoking is discouraged in Islam, so I wonder why the uptake is higher. Guessing it's a general education issue?

Surely smoking wasn’t a thing back then, looks up Wikipedia

> The Spanish introduced tobacco to Europeans in about 1528

Perhaps there is an inference of prohibition

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Post by blastro »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #64
ab8 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more you are used to eating in an average meal, the longer it takes to feel "full".

Also, it takes time for the chemical reactions in your body to tell you you are full, so if you eat a little bit, and stop for 15 min, you might very well find that you are full. However, once the taste buds are firing, it’s pretty hard to stop eating mid meal. One way is to take a little bit of food away from all the other food, eat it, and then force yourself to sit there while your blood sugar catches up to tell y…

very good point

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by baby »

Melting_Harps wrote: post #96

I've been doing a 16-20 hour fast since the lockdown and WFH, and to be honest I saw a significant decrease in my overall anxiety as a result. Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense). And while there are drawbacks, I can't bench press 215lbs anymore, the overall benefits have been pretty significant that I will keep doing it. My weight was pretty erratic, given the high stress lo…

Isn’t CBD pretty much a placebo for the dose they sell?

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by ismail »

ketzo wrote: post #65
optymizer wrote: post #56

Anecdata: I have followed IF with a 1100 calorie deficit per day by only eating 1200 calories at dinner for 3 months. This translated to more than 1kg weight loss per week, pretty reliably. Overall I lost 17kg. I adjusted the TDEE and calorie values as needed to maintain the weight loss speed. The weight loss was extremely fast, but so was the rate at which I lost lean mass. This makes sense, as I didn't exercise muc…

Yeah, fasting is one of those ""health fads"" that really does seem to work miraculously... for some people. For some, it's just nothing; for some, it's miserable. Kind of bizarre how different our metabolisms can be.

I would not call fasting a “health fad”. It has been practiced for centuries by various cultures and religions.
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