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Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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You think this is a justification to do this? On Hacker News? Really? I do not understand the mindset of some people

If it causes them more trouble than it's worth it's understandable. Someone else pointed out that there was a lot of questionable sexual content on the site and you can't really expect Facebook to micromanage every subdomain.

it's probably more about the spam instead of the sexual content

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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>It is worth noting that FB get probably the world's largest amount of spammers, fraudsters and general bad people due to the fact that they have an absurd amount of users. Yes, and they make a ton of money from those users as well. So the question is why the Facebooks and Googles of this world don't have proper procedures in place to deal with these things in a sensible way. If a decision gets reversed only after ex…

> If a decision gets reversed only after exploding on Hacker News or Reddit it should be considered a bug. The problem is that we only see the cases that go viral. We don't see the cases that didn't, and thus can't actually judge how many cases get reversed via the official escalation channels.

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Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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If Dreamwidth has any aspects of a social network whatsoever, I am sure the AG preparing anti-trust litigation against Facebook would like to hear about this blocking.

Don't most sites have those features? Some of the hate sites out there that much of the Internet applauds being blocked also have much of the same features.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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That sounds just like the (very generous interpretation of) Yelp business model. Automated systems that are as effective as elevator door close buttons, & human support available only to paying customers. I think the origin of this wasn't even originally sinister. It's just that "free" services aren't willing to provide human support, so youtube, gmail, etc. rely on automated systems. Ultimately, only paying customer…

Being a YouTube, Gmail or Facebook user you are not their customer. If you however buy ads from said platforms...

In the case of Gmail, you’re also their customer if you pay for it via G Suite. My support experiences with Google have been very good in that situation.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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I'd say Apollo (or Reddit is Fun on Android) is a heck of a lot better than new Reddit, and about as good as old Reddit. And Google Maps' app beats their site by a county mile on iOS. There's no good Hacker News client for mobile though, at least one that's better than the web page. Not that I'm saying someone should make one either, the site is responsive as heck.

I use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manuelmaly... as my Hacker News app, it does me. I like that I can vote on comments and stories, but it's irritating that I can't post via it. On a medium sized phone screen, the mobile web experience of HN is not optimum in my opinion.

HACK is also very nice on iOS :)

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hack-for-hacker-news-developer...

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Hi all! Co-owner of Dreamwidth here. Pretty cool to see my project hit the front page of HN, but definitely a bit of a /shrug moment on the subject itself. "Facebook gonna Facebook" I think is approximately how we feel about this. I know here on HN we're used to hearing stories about scrappy startups trying to carve a piece of the pie big enough to exit on, but that is pretty much the exact opposite of what Dreamwidt…

What is Dreamwidth?

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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post #125

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Controlling spam used to be about stopping unwanted messages sent to users . Now it has morphed into this idea that every site has the responsibility of content-policing their own users, lest what they publish be used to facilitate spam. Your advice may be pragmatic, but it shows how far we've slid down the slippery slope.

> Now it has morphed into this idea that every site has the responsibility of content-policing their own users, lest what they publish be linked from spam. Not sure what you mean here. The problem Deimorz was bringing up wasn't just about users writing something, and spammers linking to it. It was that this site was being used to host the spam payloads . By spammers, not by actual users. And this is how a lot of the…

> this site was being used to host the spam payloads

Calling these "spam payloads" is incorrect. The spam payloads are on Faceboot's servers. These are sites that are linked to by the spam, ostensibly for the purpose of funneling to whatever the spam is trying to market. Trying to police generic web pages, rather than the spam itself, seems like an exercise in futility given the basic philosophy of the Internet.

> And this is how a lot of the early spam fighting worked: by finding hosts that allowed sending spam and publishing their IPs on blocklists

The situation has a similar shape, but there is a distinction as Dreamwidth is not actively sending spam but rather responding to requests from viewers. Still, we can look at the outcome of what happened to the email ecosystem - increased centralization of providers - for a warning of what's to come.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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post #125

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Controlling spam used to be about stopping unwanted messages sent to users . Now it has morphed into this idea that every site has the responsibility of content-policing their own users, lest what they publish be used to facilitate spam. Your advice may be pragmatic, but it shows how far we've slid down the slippery slope.

> Now it has morphed into this idea that every site has the responsibility of content-policing their own users, lest what they publish be linked from spam. Not sure what you mean here. The problem Deimorz was bringing up wasn't just about users writing something, and spammers linking to it. It was that this site was being used to host the spam payloads . By spammers, not by actual users. And this is how a lot of the…

Facebook users don't see those spam pages unless someone on Facebook sends a Facebook message to another Facebook user linking to them.

That's where the spamming is happening.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Interesting place, never heard of it before. > Dreamwidth Studios is an Open Source social networking, content management, and personal publishing platform. Our mission in life is to make it easy for you to share the things you make, and easy to find the people who are making the things you want to enjoy. > We have all the features you've come to love in social networking sites, including privacy and security feature…

"Interesting place, never heard of it before ..." The only reason I have ever heard of dreamwidth is because Matthew Garrett (mjg59) has his excellent blog there: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/ ... otherwise I don't think I ever see that domain anywhere ...

https://siderea.dreamwidth.org/ is another widely read blog.

Most DW users post under friends-lock. You're not going to see most DW posts unless someone has given you access.

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