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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#141

I'm sorry but I feel that the posts with paywalls should be separated out from top page.

You'll need to email the site moderators using the footer Contact link if you wish to have any influence on their views in this matter. Posting about it here will have no effect at all.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#142
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is what Reddit said directly, vs through a media outlet - https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/hi3oht/updat...

The inactive claim is hilarious, let's remove all the mods so you have to close the community so we can claim you are inactive... The funny thing was they removed mods because of the lack of moderation... which was unfounded as they never said what content went unmoderated. It's annoying to be persecuted based on political ideology, but we all know what Reddit is now, the most extreme liberal echo-chamber on the inte…

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#143

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I did and I was left satisfied. I wanted to see their viewpoint on at the time "the hot topic" and confirm my suspicions that I truly don't consider their viewpoint rational or valid. It's like they start from a conclusion and work backwards to excuse it.

Honest question: how do you manage to work your way through that stuff without feeling incredibly shitty afterwards? Because whenever I have tried to make sense of them it was genuinely unpleasant for me to "reason along" with people that unreasonable (I'd almost call it painful, but perhaps that's a bit too strong).

I would highly recommend "The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion" by Jonathan Haidt. He's a left leaning psychologist, and it's basically a PHD level dive into how morality works at a psychological level, with quite a few dips into cultural anthropology. Once I understood how my own moral systems worked and how very different moral systems function, it helped me avoid these pitfalls of negative emotion blocking my empathy and understanding of other people.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#144

Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

And then the site exploded, and it had to learn how to handle things like actual nazis calling for the deaths of jewish people.

I'm not sure I see where the joke is - this was inevitable.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#145
post #89

Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

That was effectively a challenge: how bad can you be without explicitly violating the rules? (I call this "I'm not touching you Fascism", after the popular children's pastime. The goal is to enrage people without ever crossing anything that might be considered a clear line. Most systems evolve a meta-rule somewhere that "pushing the boundaries of the rules is itself against the rules". At the very least "ban evasion"…

As someone who's moderated a community, this is exactly what things feel like. Especially given that our community has an explicit focus on freedom of expression (and what a thorn in our side that's ended up being)

We've adopted pretty vague rules as a result, with a lot of room for interpretation, and rather than changing the rules often we've just updated our interpretations and communicated them with the community.

It's been a slow boil. But things are different now than they were years ago. Not just because the community has grown but (at least from my perspective) because the tone of the internet seems to have shifted slightly.

We at least are fortunate to have the capability to build tools to identify behavior that might be an issue even without taking automated action. But "I'm not touching you" behavior is sometimes hard to catch when people avoid certain key words, at least until confronted. It's a pain, really.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#146
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Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

Not just hate you, but stalk, threaten and harass you. There are some people where even just saying-- as a moderator-- "Hey, can you chill out and at lease pretend to treat other posters with some respect" will trigger a full on war against you. There aren't many people like this, but it only takes a few because even a single obsessed person can spew a lot of hate.

It's really too bad that there are no scalable "proof of intellectual work" protocols for human interactions.

I guess 3301 got things right with the Liber Primus.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#147
post #96

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Well they broke off and made their own website after the quarantine and it's on it's way to the top-1000 US sites (alexa rank).

What site is that? And is that actual organic users, or a ton of bot traffic?

I won’t link it directly for obvious reasons but theDonald dot win.

I just went clicked through and the comment traffic seems real to me. Doesn’t look like bots that i can tell.

Then I clicked an article about 19 child welfare workers arrested for sex trafficking children... and closed it. That’s enough for me for today.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#148

Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

That’s the Reddit and Youtube we need again.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#149
post #64

Chapo was just banned too. No warning AFAIK.

Really this is what it's all about. T_D has been dead for months and its ban is mostly symbolic. Chapo has still been active.

Chapo had actually grown since quarentine afaik.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump is the president of the United States, Republicans have both the Senate and the Supreme Court, and I can barely go two seconds without hearing the perspective of people who voted for Trump. There is an entire news network that acts in an almost official capacity as the Republican party press arm. What on earth makes you think Reddit is the only major place that people could discuss "issues"?

You mean the Senate, not the House

I do, but that doesn't change my point in any material way. To act as though Trump supporters are victims of systematic censorship when they literally run the United States is just ridiculous. And in any case, Reddit is not a government-sponsored social media service, and even if it were I very much doubt they would not have provisions for removing objectionable content (given how other government sites work).
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