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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by superkuh »

I have no love for the political ideology or behavior of this group but they weren't breaking any laws or even any more rules than other groups on reddit that still operate. They were just politically unviable.

Centralized corporate means to communicate (like, say, this one we're using) always go bad eventually. It's the natural lifecycle of online forums. Once money involved it's only a matter of time before the profit and drama-avoidance incentives of the corporation win over the wishes of the users. Reddit hasn't been usable since 2013.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by quazar »

enraged_camel wrote: post #30
ve55 wrote: post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

>> I wish that we didn't have to go through these things to begin with, and could have more federated and decentralized platforms Decentralization simply leads to the creation of echo-chambers, except with no one to keep the toxicity in check.

I believe that different communities might have different definitions of "toxicity". I don't think global moderation solves this problem.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by teej »

nullc wrote: post #20

I'm confused by the article. My understanding was that reddit replaced the moderators of /r/The_Donald months ago after initially making in quarantined. The Wikipedia article seems to agree with my understanding: > In February 26, 2020, Reddit administrators removed a number of r/The_Donald moderators "that were approving, stickying, and generally supporting content in this subreddit that breaks [Reddit's] content po…

Here is what Reddit said directly, vs through a media outlet - https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/hi3oht/updat...

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by koheripbal »

arcticbull wrote: post #6
softwaredoug wrote: post #2

Both Reddit's and /r/The_Donald speech protected from the outcome. From the article is that that the moderators/participants already have a new place to discuss whatever they want on a reddit clone. Reddit as a platform/company doesn't have to choose to be associated with this hate speech. Both sides have free speech rights and both have outcomes that support that speech...

> Both sides have free speech rights and both have outcomes that support that speech... "Free speech rights" don't apply between two private entities, only between the government and a private entity.

You are conflating The First Amendment (a law) with Freedom of Speech (a principle).

FoS is something we should support in any context because the only speech worth hearing is the stuff you don't like hearing.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by reaperducer »

I was mostly OK with the previous restrictions on Mr. Trump, because they were directed at a person acting irresponsibily.

This, however, may cross a line for me. I'm not a Reddit user, but it's my understanding that this is a discussion group about a person. I'm less OK with restricting the discussions of topics.

It reminds me of something I heard in a forensics class years ago: Attack the problem, not the person.

I need to think about this one for a bit.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by pozdnyshev »

txcwpalpha wrote: post #23

About time. However, this move was mostly symbolic. r/the_donald has been inactive for months without a single new post on it. AFAIK the community had already moved on to another site off reddit. Much more significant IMO is that the ban also includes r/ChapoTrapHouse, which is a "left"-leaning subreddit accused of much of the same stuff r/the_donald was.

r/Chapotraphouse was literally the largest online aggregate and forum for leftists, nothing else came close.
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