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An LSD Trip “Off-Switch” May Be Coming Soon

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Post by proverbialbunny »

mkgolden wrote: post #112
proverbialbunny wrote: post #99

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Meditation. There are certain kinds of meditation that light up the brain in a near identical way to magic mushrooms, though imho the experience is better. An advanced practitioner only takes about 20 minutes of meditation to get into that kind of state. They can stay in that state as long as they want, and they can strengthen it or weaken it even turning it off whenever they want.

Can you share with us some of the mentioned meditations?

Many different kinds of meditation can end up with that result. In some traditions it starts with the cultivation of samatha and incorporates piti.

Zazen works pretty well for me. ymmv.

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Post by merlehaggard »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #26
wreet wrote: post #2

We already have one. Give someone having a bad trip a Xanax and they're good.

Or a bit of MDMA

I highly recommend everyone candy-flip at least once, just to see why they call it candy-flipping (because everything looks like lovey-dovey glowing gumdrops). However, in my experience, the serotonin release from the MDMA tends to overwhelm the LSD, and you pay for it with the inevitable comedown and MDMA hangover the next day instead of the blissful LSD afterglow.

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Post by merlehaggard »

Nursie wrote: post #6
wreet wrote: post #2

We already have one. Give someone having a bad trip a Xanax and they're good.

Do benzodiazepines actually switch it off, or just allow the participant to relax (and maybe sleep it off)?

They dampen the effects and quell the anxiety, and depending on what stage of the trip you're in and how hard you're tripping they may effectively kill it entirely. I would take a bit of valium on the tail end of a trip to sleep or quiet my brain as it reconstituted itself after being atomized into the cosmos. I only took benzos once during the upward trajectory of a trip near the peak, after suffering physical panic symptoms from a strong batch of wild-picked wavy caps (first and only time I've felt physically threatened by a psychedelic). It didn't kill the trip, but it killed the panic and allowed me to enjoy the experience.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #91
Galaxeblaffer wrote: post #38

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protip.. Try and force yourself to eat, it gives you one less thing for your body to be weird about.

Your body can definitely handle fasting for half a day. Frankly eating gives your body more things to be weird about.

I think it depends. If you been dancing for 14 hrs you definitely need some energy and protein, no matter how fit you are.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

fiblye wrote: post #28
dzhiurgis wrote: post #23

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How about alcohol? I’ve only had one third of a trip and towards the end whiskey took some of the edge off.

Yeah, I’ve found having a beer definitely takes away some anxiety/twitchiness and brings me back to reality a bit faster. But it was the same for me, towards the end of a trip. Not sure how it works for somehow rapidly being swallowed by the void.

"He need sum milk" also comes to mind

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Post by dzhiurgis »

dylan604 wrote: post #70
dzhiurgis wrote: post #23

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How about alcohol? I’ve only had one third of a trip and towards the end whiskey took some of the edge off.

What the huh? One third of a trip? Which third did you experience, the coming on of the effect, the peak/plateau, or the coming down?

My first trip so far, took only 1/3rd of a ticket. IDK what I really experienced, just some slight visuals. Definitely more pleasurable than mushrooms (less poisonous, less lyrical, more positive).

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Post by entitydc »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #146
dylan604 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the huh? One third of a trip? Which third did you experience, the coming on of the effect, the peak/plateau, or the coming down?

My first trip so far, took only 1/3rd of a ticket. IDK what I really experienced, just some slight visuals. Definitely more pleasurable than mushrooms (less poisonous, less lyrical, more positive).

Poisonous?

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Post by perl4ever »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #86
entropyneur wrote: post #12

So no info on what it actually is. Just some company filing a patent. And the fact that they call it "a neutralizer technology" suggests that it's probably just a bunch of BS combined with previously known drugs to make it patentable. I'm pretty sure there's at least some published research on using at least one antipsychotic for that and mountains of "folk research" on using benzodiazepines.

I'm curious what would be the market for this? wouldn't that be an extremely niche scenario within the emergency-response medicine where people inexperienced with LSD who suffer a bad trip ask to be taken off it? afaik LSD isn't a drug that one is likely to OD from either.

People seem to be saying "just use Risperidone" in the comments, so if there is a new drug that counters LSD, maybe it would be useful as an alternative to Risperidone, which has a variety of side effects when taken long term.
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