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Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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You might find one helps the other - though I don't necessarily recommend "sport" per say, but exercise.

You mean "per se"? ;)

If only you'd gotten to me when I could still edit it. :( Add it to the wall of ignominy.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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I didnt sleep enough for all my teens and student years, and ended up with an autoimmune disease. Taking sleep and other health seriously has been a big part of getting myself back in working shape.

Wait seriously? If you don’t mind can you share what the disease/effects are and why you think it’s caused by lack of sleep when younger?

Sure. Multiple Sclerosis. It seems I'm not hard hit in terms of physical symptoms of this, but I had depression, fogginess of the mind and difficulties concentrating.

It is not easy to say what begets what effect, but it's true that sleeping well and working/commuting less has been the only way to take back control of my life.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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> medical device that's built for this! You don't need to spend $90 on some patented thing. Use simple 3M Micropore Surgical Tape 2.5cm x 9.14m, its what every one else uses for mouth taping and its exactly what a lot of dentists will suggest is used, although a few more folks are using SomniFix Sleep Strips as well. Tape works absolutely fine though, and its the consensus go to by most users.

> and its the consensus go to by most users I can't attest to relatively popularity, but this device was independently suggested by both my dentist and my ENT. It works really well. Tape seems like a great option too, but it seems like it'd come off easily? I might give it a shot.

Good point, you know if this works for you, that is all that matters at the end of the day.

The tape stays on very well. You want Micropore Surgical Tape - 2.5cm x 9.14m. Also it helps if you don't have a beard. This was the only down side for me, but I will take the better sleep / improved health over a beard.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

I had a sleep study done but was so uncomfortable I couldn't fall asleep...all the wires and crap. Waste of money.

Same for me. It took me 3 goes to get enough data for a diagnosis. Don't give up.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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I asked a doctor about it and he said that since I'm not obese nor overweight, and I don't regularly wake up gasping, then I'm not a candidate. I've had fitful sleep as far as I can remember. I wake up (and remember it) probably 4-5 times a night and I've been told I toss and turn all the time. I find if I take a calmant or a substance I can sleep through the night. I have chronic inflammation includes Achilles' pain…

Please go see a sleep doctor, not a GP. I was diagnosed in my late 30s, and I was definitely not overweight at the time. In retrospect, many things that I thought were normal (or even positive) turned out to be very clear symptoms of chronic sleep deprivation.

I'll second this. I had sleep apnea but I don't remember ever waking up gasping - not even once. I only know about it because my wife said I'd stop breathing while I was sleeping.

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Sacrificed months of productivity to fast off 70 pounds in hope it would fix sleep apnea. It didn't.

I snored so loudly that when I was in basic training that they made me sleep all of the way at the opposite end of the open-bay barracks we were in. I was 18 and near the height of physical perfection. As far back as 10 years old I remember feeling miserable every single morning even after getting a full night's sleep. At age 35 I got a CPAP and finally fixed a quarter century of piss-poor sleep.

My entire academic life was affected by always being sleepy. Falling asleep in band class in high school with the saxophone in my mouth, etc. I was a track & field athelete and was in good shape. Finally got a cpap as an adult, along with vitamin d supplements, has improved it.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

#147
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Fitful : Occurring in or characterized by intermittent bursts, as of activity; irregular. https://www.wordnik.com/words/fitful I am not a native speaker and had to look it up.

Fit can also mean a convulsion or spasm, a coughing fit. So fitful is a period full of fits. Hope that helps.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

I asked a doctor about it and he said that since I'm not obese nor overweight, and I don't regularly wake up gasping, then I'm not a candidate. I've had fitful sleep as far as I can remember. I wake up (and remember it) probably 4-5 times a night and I've been told I toss and turn all the time. I find if I take a calmant or a substance I can sleep through the night. I have chronic inflammation includes Achilles' pain…

Your doctor is WRONG!

I spent 2 extra years barely half awake because I thought that, being thin, I could not have sleep apnea. Nor did I wake up gasping.

The 4 main risk factors are overweight, being male, over 40, and current or past smoker. But some get it while being 0/4.

Sleep apnea is one of the best serious medical conditions you can have, since the CPAP machine fixes it completely, with very minor discomfort!

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

You're all going to think I am a crazy, but I instead elected to tape my mouth closed with 3m tape right when I go to bed. This to me is superior and should be your first port. Not only did it fix my apnoea and huge lack of energy during the day, but also my chronic sinus issues that had plagued me for years. Its also a lot cheaper, much easier to use / travel with and gets me into a good habit of nose breathing duri…

I would go even further: try to train yourself to use your nose all the time, specially around sleeping. Think of keeping your mouth closed before sleeping and if you wake up noticeably having breathed through your mouth take a mental note to change. It worked for me (no tape required).

(Whatever works for anyone of course. If other methods still leave bad sleep, by all means use a machine!)

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

You're all going to think I am a crazy, but I instead elected to tape my mouth closed with 3m tape right when I go to bed. This to me is superior and should be your first port. Not only did it fix my apnoea and huge lack of energy during the day, but also my chronic sinus issues that had plagued me for years. Its also a lot cheaper, much easier to use / travel with and gets me into a good habit of nose breathing duri…

Yeah folks dont do this if you have allergies. You might die.
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