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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by lgeorget »

ehnto wrote: post #139
synaesthesisx wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other intended function is to measure & monetize viewer engagement and sentiment, so that IFE can offer personalized ads as an additional revenue stream for the airlines.

I was in a taxi in Japan with a TV screen in the headrests. It started with a message saying it uses facial recognition to tell if you are male or female, in order to provide you with the most relevant content, where the content was entirely advertising. Your future is now.

So a camera records your face to send the pictures to God knows whose server and your preferences are dictated based on your assumed gender instead of being asked for...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by jobigoud »

Symbiote wrote: post #138
jobigoud wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whay's the point of video calling someone in the same room a few meters away?

It's less disruptive if the passenger is in the window seat.

How so? There is already a button to get the flight attendant to come over without having to move yourself, and you are going to talk aloud all the same. In fact with video calling you may disrupt a larger number of people since the flight attendant is also going to talk aloud in a different part of the cabin, creating two disjointed pockets of noise.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by xvector »

ddsea wrote: post #123
Gustomaximus wrote: post #91

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I specifically put on mediocre movies to help me sleep on flights. I often wake up when they finish. I can't be alone here.

Boring meetings have the same effect on me. The main challenge is, not to snore.

This is actually a serious problem to me.

Regardless of how interesting I find them, meetings at work trigger something deep inside me that cause me to sleep. It’s like a biological switch has been flipped. Cavemen talking around a fire into the night, getting ready for the long rest for the day ahead...

Sometimes I fall into a fugue in which I am semi-aware and a dream fills in part of the speech of meetings. I hear the most bizarre things when that happens, and worst of all, it makes sense!

I don’t have any sleep issues aside from this.

Standing up sometimes helps but cannot always be done.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by kodablah »

jedberg wrote: post #32
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #24

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It’s tough to defend CNN... but it has to recognize faces to do that right? :)

I think people generally consider facial recognition meaning to recognize your face, not just that one exists.

This is one of those rare cases where it's helpful to conflate the two since, when considering privacy implications, the tolerance of one begets the other. In other words, recognition of individual facial features should be treated with as much caution as individual facial recognition.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by dvcrn »

ehnto wrote: post #139
synaesthesisx wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other intended function is to measure & monetize viewer engagement and sentiment, so that IFE can offer personalized ads as an additional revenue stream for the airlines.

I was in a taxi in Japan with a TV screen in the headrests. It started with a message saying it uses facial recognition to tell if you are male or female, in order to provide you with the most relevant content, where the content was entirely advertising. Your future is now.

Do you remember which taxi group that was? I live in Japan and haven’t noticed that yet

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by culturestate »

jobigoud wrote: post #143
Symbiote wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's less disruptive if the passenger is in the window seat.

How so? There is already a button to get the flight attendant to come over without having to move yourself, and you are going to talk aloud all the same. In fact with video calling you may disrupt a larger number of people since the flight attendant is also going to talk aloud in a different part of the cabin, creating two disjointed pockets of noise.

Using a call button, the flight attendant has to come over twice - once to find out what you want, and then again to bring you the thing you asked for. Any form of remote communication (video chat, text message, whatever) reduces that to a single interaction.

Fewer trips down the aisle, less time spent leaning over other passengers, etc.

If I were the PM on this project I probably would've used a standard menu of services (get a blanket, refill water bottle) in an app on the IFE display instead, but the principle is sound.

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Post by nostrebored »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #82
samstave wrote: post #55

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How tall are you?

197 cm (6' 5"). Very tall, although there are still people who have it worse...

Also 1.97m and it's truly miserable flying in most planes. I've come to terms with the fact that I will not sleep on flights.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by mcbain »

wp381640 wrote: post #41
andrewfromx wrote: post #35

isn't the real issue the space is limited because jet fuel is too expensive? Both in dollars to get it and cost to planet earth. Seems like the space available for seats per dollar spent will get much better with EPA or NPA ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21436838 ) and NPA with the stuff happening at places like https://terrapower.com/ seems very promising.

I once worked with someone who was perviously a consultant to a large airline and they dropped the size of their inflight magazine ~20 years ago to save weight and then were amongst the first airlines to drop it all together for the same reason They figured out the $ they would save p.a with every change of page length, paper weight, etc. (it was partially offset by advertisers and onboard sales but not enough) I can…

There are listicles with these kinds of stats every now and then (and I’m usually a sucker for them), like this one: https://www.traveller.com.au/airline-weight-reduction-to-sav...

Scaling any kind of issue changes things dramatically.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ninjin »

dvcrn wrote: post #146
ehnto wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in a taxi in Japan with a TV screen in the headrests. It started with a message saying it uses facial recognition to tell if you are male or female, in order to provide you with the most relevant content, where the content was entirely advertising. Your future is now.

Do you remember which taxi group that was? I live in Japan and haven’t noticed that yet

At the very least Nihon Koutsuu (日本交通) [1] does this.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon_Kotsu

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