Not to mention the finger joint pain.
Yes, really.
This thing is a joke.
MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go give windows a try and report back. I've been using Windows for the past couple of weeks and, granted maybe I haven't really given it a chance, using it after using Macs for 10+ years is not great. Maybe developing on macOS has become a hassle (I don't see that, but sure), but doing everything on Windows is a hassle. Taking a screenshot. Opening the right file. Displaying UI at a reasonable scale . Think what you…
> Taking a screenshot. Opening the right file Former is PrtScn key on my keyboard. Microsoft ships Snipping Tools and lately Snip n Sketch for screenshots - never had any issues with either. Latter - not sure what you mean - opening the right file as in setting default program to open a file? That's easy enough and it's the best experience on Windows.
This is the Windows 7-era way to do this. Hit WindowsKey-Shift-S instead.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dell XPS15 with Ubuntu has literally been my best developer environment ever. Unfortunately my current gig is all MBP and I feel completely handicapped, even after many months - to the point I have resorted to a "proper" mechanical keyboard.
I find the XPS has a disappointing keyboard actually.
Yup, I've had my XPS15 for over 3 years and the keyboard (and webcam) are the weakest elements. The keyboard still feels terrible...somehow it has the worst of both worlds, poor key travel and too large a spacing between keys. Typing has always felt very awkward. In comparison, I absolutely love the Surface Pro 4 keyboard which has wonderful key travel and spacing.
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#144My hands hurt when typing on this keyboard. I've never had this problem with a Mac laptop in the better part of two decades.
Same! I have legitimate joint pain in my index and middle fingers because of this thing. Have to use an external keyboard now for anything but a few minutes.
It's so bad!
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#145I have the first generation TouchBar MacBook Pro. And I've gotten the bottom part replaced twice: once because I spilled coffee on my desk and my MacBook decided to drink it, and the second time because they didn't attach the bottom plate properly (they forgot 2 screws and 1 other just fell out).
The keyboard they replaced it with is significantly better. It feels softer to the touch, and it's quieter. The keys don't get stuck anymore and it generally feels like a proper nice keyboard.
That said. I rarely use the laptop in an opened-up state anyway. I tend to connect it to a screen + keyboard + mouse and enjoy the computer without that idiotic TouchBar.
Last I checked you can send your MBP back to Apple and they'll replace the faulty keyboard. I did it during a vacation, it only took them 1 week to send the fixed system back.
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#146Finally a new and refreshing take on the MacBook keyboards.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Press print screen and it does... I'm not sure what? Copies it into the buffer, silently. No notification, nothing. Great UX. In Ubuntu it's even better, it actually saves it as an image file (and does the annoying shutter effect). But the repeat key is not turned off... so if by any chance you hold it down by mistake, thinking it was the right ctrl, oh boy, you get a shitstorm of shutter effects and dozens of scre…
Out of interest, what keyboard has a Print-Screen key next to ctrl?
Thinkpad T480s, goes space, alt, prtsc, ctrl.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great, will they be offering free trade-ins? These are $2000 computers that have a major broken component. Not to mention, the second a computer comes on sale that doesn't have this issue, the resale value of the current MacBooks will be disproportionately affected compared to previous revisions. So a nice double whammy: a miserable experience during its use, and an unusually small resale value afterwards.
You think the company that makes you buy an extra 'fuck you' dongle to plug in your brand new phone into your brand new computer will let you trade up? Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.
Don't forget makes you buy a monitor stand separately for that few thousand dollar monitor
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#149I switched to a Thinkpad after I had the horror of using a new Macbook. Running Ubuntu is lovely, so much so that for a developer there is little reason to be using a Macbook anymore. You can get a lot more bang for the buck using a Thinkpad AND have a functional keyboard. Apple should be very worried. Once they loose the developers, users won't be long to follow.
Mac to Dell/Ubuntu here and completely agree. I can understand if you need some media creation applications sticking with Mac (although I'd switch to Win10), but as a fellow developer it has been awesome. I mean I'm completely shocked how I don't even remotely miss anything from Mac. Well, ok, not quite true - Macs have a slightly smoother UI which I like and a bit better fonts, and I miss 1 or 2 trackpad gestures. But everything else is equal on Ubuntu or better. I ran into 2-3 problems that needed some non-trivial linux admin, so I'm not advocating it for non-tech person usage.
The only irritation about the experience is when you switch windows and touch the touchpad, it forces a quick scroll down the page. It used to be maddening, but I found one "fix" that made it happen less frequently.
Otherwise, it's by far my favorite dev environment I've had in my 30+ year career! Well, except for maybe my first job using a Wang terminal, if only because I enjoyed telling coworkers I needed to get back to my Wang. Lots of Wang jokes.
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#150The worst part is that I can tell this keyboard is actually having a detrimental effect on my typing abilities. Since being on these keyboards for years now, I've noticed that my typing speed has slowed, as I spend a significant amount of cognitive energy preparing to fix mistakes. The faster you type, the more annoying it is to go farther back to fix something. I'm not sure how to quantify the focus it steals from t…
I feel you. A long time ago I had a windows laptop keyboard that was glitching out. After a few weeks, I literally threw it out the window in frustration! I'm more mature now, I think...
No. You just can't be seen typing on anything but a Mac. It would destroy your street cred.