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Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by soganess »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #104
soganess wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got 256GB and a fresh install of windows use about 4 with a few things running on startup(mostly just the amd+nvidia drivers). There is indeed some scaling with availability but with diminishing returns after probably 8/16gb of available ram. What I find more interesting is that windows still compresses and swaps on startup even with that much ram available.

Disable swap (pagefile) when you have that much ram, or even when you only have 8 or more. You lose hibernate but that's fine by me. Modern cpu and ssd cold boots pretty fast, especially if you have debloated things similar to this script. Many of the things that are pitched as beneficial, like indexing everything and caching the indexes and keeping all kinds of services alive to "quick start" other things in case yo…

Thanks for all the advice!

This is my compute "cluster" and I don't usually have windows running on it, just tossed it on there do some bios modifications to my compute cards.

I just thought I would provide some insight to the conversation!

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by zvrba »

FluffyKitty wrote: post #8

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

> Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux?

A couple of years ago (when Skylake was new CPU) I tried dual-booting Linux with the then-current version of Arch and it crashed (completely froze) when using integrated intel graphics. Tweaking kernel boot parameters (turning on experimental support for the chipset) as suggested in the documentation didn't help either. Not to mention I have a HiDPI display and tweaking appearance of everything was a pain.

Suspend didn't work. With windows, I don't turn off the computer, I choose "sleep". Uptime regularly over 1 month, usually interrupted only by Windows updates.

Wiped the whole thing. Now, if I need Linux tools, I boot up WSL.

EDIT: Before I was a long-term Linux user. Never worked smoothly (e.g., concurrent audio playback/mixing from different programs), always had to tweak this and that. It was fun when I was younger, Linux was newer, and less bloated and more easily understandable. Now I just need to get shit done w/o OS getting in my face all the time, so I use Windows.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by newlytread »

jclay wrote: post #118

I was surprised to find on a recent reinstall of Windows 10 that it no longer included the start menu full of sponsored apps and games. It was a pretty minimal install, all things considered. This was with the Education edition which is a derivative of the Pro edition I believe. I’d also highly recommend the BoxStarter setup scripts [0]. They remove all of the unnecessary default applications, perform windows updates…

I installed pro just the other day, which came with the game shortcuts. I think I just have been installing enterprise previously

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by XzetaU8 »

0-_-0 wrote: post #102
davesmith1983 wrote: post #29

This is interesting. I was using the ShutUp10 tool (I am not affiliated). https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 That lists what it considers "Safe" things to turn off and I generally keep to that. I would however want to try this in a VM before running it.

W10Privacy is another great alternative

Windows Privacy Dashboard (WPD)

Unlike the aforesaid two tools it supports not only Windows 10, but 7,8,8.1 as well.

[1] https://wpd.app/

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by Dylan16807 »

simonh wrote: post #58
giancarlostoro wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is strange do you have any further points of reference on the matter? Preferrably a resource from Microsoft if possible.

Linux does the same thing, they both use RAM to cache disk reads for performance.

The tools on both generally show cache as free. The issue is not somebody misreading a chart.

If it was cache then the use would appear to be 98%

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by FraKtus »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…

I have a small Windows 10 Intel NUC that I use for Visual Studio to pull code to test and debug.

I did tweak it by removing many packages with:

Get-AppxPackage | Select Name, PackageFullName

Remove-AppxPackage ...

I also did tweak the group policies to prevent Windows 10 for many things, such as not use Cortana and not to auto-update and restart without notice. The software I write needs to run for weeks without leaks, that's one of the things I need to test on that system.

That NUC computer running Windows 10 is a pure joy to use. Once trimmed down Windows boots in seconds and never interrupt me while I am working.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by CamperBob2 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #128
floatingatoll wrote: post #49

Do your friends a favor and never run this or any like it on their systems "for their benefit". This is a prime example of "expert user footgun problem". The phrase "debloat" is a marketing-hype word that's being used to bait you all into someone's personal view of how computers should be. Expect to be forced to reinstall Windows 10 a few days or weeks after running any such script. Whenever I tech support any of my…

The phrase "debloat" is a marketing-hype word that's being used to bait you all into someone's personal view of how computers should be Well, my personal view of that topic is certainly a lot more valid than Microsoft's.

"Hacker News," folks. LOL

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by stinos »

majkinetor wrote: post #95
qieja wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc) contains most of the important settings to disable (Cortana, having your searches uploaded to Bing, Windows Update, Defender...) and it's perfectly safe to use, unlike these scripts.

The problem with gpedit is it is clickily thingy. Its pain to find something and setup. Pwsh all the way.

Aren't there PS functions to modify GP?

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by IntelMiner »

JudgeWapner wrote: post #131
noir_lord wrote: post #28

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Wow, that seems like an insane choice as the default. I'm curious what the rationale was behind that choice.

Tinfoil theory incoming: NSA pressures windows to have the largest attack surface possible by default. With the hope that any given targeted system will have at least one piece of default bloatware still running, presumably they have 0-days for most all of them.

Even putting aside the tinfoil hat. The NSA would never pressure anyone to have a larger attack surface, that would just make it easier for competing nations and attackers to discover flaws, which would render their own efforts moot
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