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KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by CharlesW »

ses1984 wrote: post #54
simonh wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really follow the argument. If you are a commercial company, the Play store is pretty much all that matters in terms of business viability. At a commercial level, the fact a few geeks can side-load apps is next to irrelevant. Who builds a business on side-loaded apps?

The alternative to google play would presumably be the apple app store which, if they ban you, there is no side channel. If your desire is to build a mobile app, you don't really have a lot of options.

> The alternative to google play would presumably be the apple app store which, if they ban you, there is no side channel.

It depends on what you mean by "side channel". You can do a PWA instead, or use tools like Test Flight (up to 10,000 users), or leverage the Apple Developer Enterprise Program, etc.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by vernie »

tyfon wrote: post #2

And google is supposed to launch a gaming console today that streams from the cloud. It's bound to generate a ton of support cases, I wonder how they will handle that. I also wonder how they deal with the countries that require a publicly listed phone number and address to be able to contact them.

I imagine like most of their end-user products they just won't handle that.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by lern_too_spel »

Svoka wrote: post #27

I find it extremely scary to make business with Google. Their robot would get your account banned, all cloud, play and every other thing with it. Every hour it is banned would be lost money and lost customers. This is not my problem, really. It is Google's public image as I seen it soulless support for last 10 years, and stories like this pop up time to time. Too sad they pretty much locked in Android app market, and…

> with every version it is harder and harder to sideload apps

Really? How?

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by coldacid »

CharlesW wrote: post #141
ses1984 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alternative to google play would presumably be the apple app store which, if they ban you, there is no side channel. If your desire is to build a mobile app, you don't really have a lot of options.

> The alternative to google play would presumably be the apple app store which, if they ban you, there is no side channel. It depends on what you mean by "side channel". You can do a PWA instead, or use tools like Test Flight (up to 10,000 users), or leverage the Apple Developer Enterprise Program, etc.

Unless or until Apple bans your account, at which point you can't even deploy to your own phone anymore.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by rangerpolitic »

Svoka wrote: post #27

I find it extremely scary to make business with Google. Their robot would get your account banned, all cloud, play and every other thing with it. Every hour it is banned would be lost money and lost customers. This is not my problem, really. It is Google's public image as I seen it soulless support for last 10 years, and stories like this pop up time to time. Too sad they pretty much locked in Android app market, and…

Don't build mobile apps. Build web apps.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by unethical_ban »

The inability to read SMS is flat-out user-hostile.

They could have a permissions UI with red/yellow/green indicators for privacy risk or similar, and let users choose. I want Lightflow and KDE Connect to have access. Why is that so hard to understand?

Oh wait, they do. They're just intentionally crippling their product.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by [deleted] »

simonh wrote: post #51
kabacha wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ech at least on android you can easily install apps outside of google play. _I_ find it scary to make business with as you can be pretty much _snapped_ out of existance in a single decision.

I don't really follow the argument. If you are a commercial company, the Play store is pretty much all that matters in terms of business viability. At a commercial level, the fact a few geeks can side-load apps is next to irrelevant. Who builds a business on side-loaded apps?

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Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by noir_lord »

meditate wrote: post #120
simonh wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really follow the argument. If you are a commercial company, the Play store is pretty much all that matters in terms of business viability. At a commercial level, the fact a few geeks can side-load apps is next to irrelevant. Who builds a business on side-loaded apps?

A lot of companies do. I've actually found it's pretty difficult to get mobile apps deployed inside bigger companies WITHOUT delivering a custom build that enterprise IT rolls out on their own, even on iOS.

We do because we have android hand scanners for the production areas and handhelds for the drivers, side loading is the simplest way to get stuff onto them.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Post by noir_lord »

mtnGoat wrote: post #129
gabbygab wrote: post #106

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Or maybe they hire the best engineers who interview well? Being a great engineer and being a great interviewer aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. You can be both. Also, after 20+ years in business, google engineers are still highly respected and sought after by every company for their tech expertise. If google didn't hire the best, that luster would have faded a long time ago. Google has always been great at tech…

"sought after by every company" certainly not sought after by my company, and i hate to speak for others, but i can name at least a handful of others where having any of the FANGs will usually get your resume circular filed. :x

If I was hiring currently been former FANG wouldn't shift the needle one way or the other.

At the scale they operate been one developer amongst tens of thousands on it's own isn't a good metric.

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