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Bitcoin is a Cult

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Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#141
Bitcoin is for the paranoid and conspiracy theorists.

The argument crypto currency supporters have is always Venezuela or the European banking crisis (hilarious because citizens didn't actually lose any money). If our banking system DOES collapse your crypto wallet won't save you.

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#142

There is, without a doubt, a Bitcoin cult. Or more generally, crypto-currency cults. The headline reads like it's only a cult, which isn't the case. Even the most critical observer must concede that these distributed networks are novel and interesting. The farther you move from social media, the less cult-like things get. The best discussion remains on listservs, and there is a lot of interesting and substantive disc…

> these distributed networks are novel and interesting

They were interesting when the bitcoin paper was released.

Then people (outside of the cult) realized that you Do Not Need A Trustless System. Society is built on trust. Wasting ENORMOUS amounts of power just to replace a few trusted entities with 51% of the network is a horrible idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCHab0dNnj4

Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#143

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Any data to back that up ? I know anecdotal, but I can buy beers, taxi & coffee with crypto which I could not 9 years ago and I see quite a lot of ATMs appearing; NL/UK/JP/HK. I think the main point is that I can get a coffee with crypto, which is an important milestone.

Maybe it’s because I’m European, but 8 years ago I could buy coffee with crypto in both Copenhagen and Berlin and today I can’t.

This, retailers don't even want to support Apple Pay because of its transaction fees. If there is already a almost free and efficient payment system that everyone is happy with and is used by 99% of the population why bother with anything new that IS NOT SUPERIOR TO WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE?

I simply don't know what problem BTC was supposed to solve.

Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#144
The author is wrong as in presenting the cult as a flaw. Every imaginary human construct has value because we have agreed collectively to subscribe value to it. The stronger the religion the strongest the construct. For bitcoin to become a dominant SoV we need to see some crypto talibans/missionaries/crusaders.

Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#145

Bitcoin is for the paranoid and conspiracy theorists. The argument crypto currency supporters have is always Venezuela or the European banking crisis (hilarious because citizens didn't actually lose any money). If our banking system DOES collapse your crypto wallet won't save you.

> Bitcoin is for the paranoid and conspiracy theorists

I would wager a small fraction of technically-literate paranoids and conspiracy theorists own Bitcoin. More plausible: people with some other tendency buy and then, when asked for an explanation, rationalise with conspiracy theory-like reasoning. (My guess for the tendency: gambling affinity.)

Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#146
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Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#147
post #80

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Right. I agree. I am also going one step further and arguing that crypto is more of a fan club then a cult. There are cults way stronger that illicit a far greater emotion reaction that crypto. Even now, when the price is in the toilet, a lot of really smart people are having sane discussions across sub-reddits. And those very smart people are still checkin in code and making improvements. This has happened before. D…

> BBS era and ARPA Net era These services were launched to solve a practical problem. Bitcoin was launched as the manifestation of an ideology.

Right. Everyone disagreeing must surely be on ideological basis as there can be no rational basis for disagreements. As seen in everything from politics to musical taste.

Bitcoin solved some practical problem in someone's mind too, even if that problem was "how do we get private money into the 21st century?".

Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#148
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Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#149

There is, without a doubt, a Bitcoin cult. Or more generally, crypto-currency cults. The headline reads like it's only a cult, which isn't the case. Even the most critical observer must concede that these distributed networks are novel and interesting. The farther you move from social media, the less cult-like things get. The best discussion remains on listservs, and there is a lot of interesting and substantive disc…

It is only a cult in the sense that it the speculators are 10 years ahead of the consumers. Most of crypto's traction is speculation. There is almost zero consumer traction. The cult members don't want to see this, and this purposeful avoidance of truth is what makes it culty.

Re: Bitcoin is a Cult

#150
post #28

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> Have you ever actually laundered dirty money? No. My knowledge comes from anti-money laundering training. Depending on how fast one needs to move, money laundering fees go from 5% to 30%. Bitcoin is cheaper than that per se . But include the costs of anonymising and cleanly cash out, and you're just adding cost and risk over a wire transfer between fronts.

No man, there's so much more exposure that way. And remember, this is a criminal enterprise. Those people who run your fronts could just as easily rob/kill you and take it for themselves, and given the chance they will . With bitcoins you can 1) do it yourself, no middlemen other than the bitcoin processor who doesn't give a flying right-hand fuck where the money comes from, and 2) do it far, far, far quicker than tr…

The one thing that’s quite obvious from your posts is that you have a very, very loose grip on basic business and economic principles.
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