Despite the promises, the followers never returned. We only had a few hundred, not bad for a parochial project on the psychogeography of memorials, but now we had zero. They currently have 396, including me.
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#142Despite the promises, the followers never returned. We only had a few hundred, not bad for a parochial project on the psychogeography of memorials, but now we had zero. They currently have 396, including me.
Maybe you were looking at the following, not the followers. I see 222 followers.
OpenBenches.org @openbenches Made with in Oxford by @edent and @summerbeth openbenches.org 393 Following 427 Followers
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#143I would assume Twitter suspended the account due to the rate of posts. Granted, you are allowed 2400 tweets per day, [1] so the account should not have had any issues.... [1]: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-limit...
I am going to assume Twitter suspended the account because their software is broken and they don't care about the sweeping consequences of deploying broken robots to police a social network where people are constantly challenging expectations with creative projects and timelines.
It's their laissez-faire attitude about it that really makes them a cancer. "We've blocked your account and we won't tell you why and there's nothing you can do! P.S. Don't bother E-mailing us it all goes into a black hole!" It's everything bad about everything bad on the internet, compacted into a super efficient E-mail.
I bet one of these years people wake up and start treating outgoing E-mails without valid return addresses as spam, the way we should be. Or, for accuracy, not as spam but as hostile and societally intolerable.
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But that defeats the whole point. Yeah it's nice that you can have your sub-communities but the value of Twitter such as it is is that it;s the universal default microblogging platform in the English-speaking world. Almost everyone who is important in society is accessible via Twitter, just the way that having an email address is a universal default. When someone is telling you that their experience of a product or s…
I'm not telling people they're using it wrongly, I'm saying that Mastodon has benefits that they may not (yet) have realised, and that it's not Twitter. This is why I say that using both is a perfectly reasonable option. And Mastodon is not Twitter. Twitter does have some advantages over Mastodon, and if that's what you want or need, then great. But if you want a quality audience, Mastodon might be a reasonable alter…
To build on your analogy, your distinction between stick shift and automatic in your car is not relevant to the person who needs a pickup truck to haul a large load. It misses the point of what the OP is trying to achieve in the first place.
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I'm not telling people they're using it wrongly, I'm saying that Mastodon has benefits that they may not (yet) have realised, and that it's not Twitter. This is why I say that using both is a perfectly reasonable option. And Mastodon is not Twitter. Twitter does have some advantages over Mastodon, and if that's what you want or need, then great. But if you want a quality audience, Mastodon might be a reasonable alter…
The thing is, the OP has already explained that the value of Twitter to their project is the large number of people on that platform. It's great that you find Mastodon valuable, I do too - but it simply doesn't have enough users to generate the network effects required. To build on your analogy, your distinction between stick shift and automatic in your car is not relevant to the person who needs a pickup truck to ha…
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> Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance. For most people I know and follow, that's like, the low bar of twitter follower counts.
While I acknowledge that numbers are numbers, to some extent, that's not really the point. If you find a Mastodon instance that has a community that's closely matched to your interests, suddenly that's 1K or 10K or 100K of high-quality followers. And the smaller instances don't suffer the Twitter firehose problem. The instances I use, I watch all the toots, not just those of people I follow. So it's not the number of…
That's exactly the point though. If you put amount of people you are likely to reach above technical problems, then going solely to a service where the "high" follower count is 1/100th of the high follower counts on another is completely stupid.
> But my other point remains - there is no need to be exclusively on one or the other. It's comparatively trivial to put everything on both media.
Oh, I agree.
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I don’t understand the reason for flagging it. I get the impression that you are flagging it for not being novel or unique. I can relate, but that is concerning in itself. The general concern here could not be anymore relevant, and discounting that merely because it lacks novelty seems at least decadent and at most snobery. Without even taking a stance on the issue being discussed, I think we can all agree that these…
The danger with low-effort topics like this is that they can take over a site (see e.g. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tscc3e5eujrsEeFN4/well-kept-... ). At a guess, there've been several hundred submissions like this to HN over the years, and yet this is an approach to business that established companies and startups alike continue to follow. There's no sign that any of this noise is changing the actual business pr…
But, I think these articles are not the result of formula or even a superficial trend. I can’t imagine what the motive would be. Until further notice, these articles seem to mostly be coming from a place of genuine concern.
What if the reason we keep seeing the posts is that the problem is simply that significant?
Speaking from a more personal perspective, I am surprised that the problem continues like it does. It seems like the exact sort of societies are built to prevent. It can ruin livelihoods, can happen to anyone, at any time, the causes are blackboxed, and there is almost always no recourse.
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Any of the open-source email spam filters? Not saying they’re excellent by any means but they’d at least take care of the most obvious spam there is. False positives can be dealt with appeals - allow people to actually appeal the decision and get a human to review it. I’d take the occasional false positive with a proper appeals system any day over the current cesspool that is Twitter.
Like what? SpamAssassin? You would be surprised how much obvious spam gets through it in the face of the kind of spam onslaught that goes on in the real world today. Seriously, this problem is not as easy to solve for machines as you think it is.
And email seems like a harder place to police, being decentralized. These guys control the gateway to the service!
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Maybe you were looking at the following, not the followers. I see 222 followers.
No. It's up to 427 currently: OpenBenches.org @openbenches Made with in Oxford by @edent and @summerbeth openbenches.org 393 Following 427 Followers
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No. It's up to 427 currently: OpenBenches.org @openbenches Made with in Oxford by @edent and @summerbeth openbenches.org 393 Following 427 Followers
Very strange, I now see 396 following and 257 followers. Social blade confirms the follower number too. I wonder if there's some Twitter caching going on.