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Well good thing your personal experience translates to all other 25 million people using Thunderbird.
We don't have data, but Mozilla probably do. In lieu we can only guess based on our experiences.
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#142I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users. I think Mozilla's…
Firstly, if you bother to read the OP, Mozilla hasn't chosen to hire anyone:
"The Thunderbird Project is hiring for a software engineer! [...] Please note that while the Thunderbird project is a group of individuals separate from the Mozilla Foundation that works to further the Thunderbird email client, the Mozilla Foundation is the Project’s fiscal home."
Secondly, Mozilla is not "one of the richest charities in the world"; the Mozilla Corporation may have $300 million a year in revenue, but the Mozilla Foundation, which is the charity, has revenues that are a hundredth of that. And US law is very specific about what charities may spend revenue on, and developing email client software is not on that list (nor is developing web browser software, for that matter).
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#143But of course that would be untenable for Mozilla because it would be admitting defeat to Chrome.
The problem is that Mozilla has no alternative to Electron. There are a number of false starts and head fakes, but none of them have any buy in or support or future.
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It's a way to be cheap. And honestly hiring through Upwork is a terrible idea.
Lobsters has a nice little rant on upwork's humiliating experience. https://lobste.rs/s/e0uh2y/we_re_hiring_developer_work_on#c_...
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That won't work right; it can overflow vertically. Consider the case of a 10x10 image in a container of width 500px and height 100px... Ideally you would want it to end up 100x100, but it will end up 500x500 with that CSS.
Wouldn't it be setting both "max-width" and "max-height" to 100%? Or the background-image / background-size hack.
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Wouldn't it be setting both "max-width" and "max-height" to 100%? Or the background-image / background-size hack.
Believe this is what people are looking for: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/object-fit
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#148The most important thing here is that there's now a serious plan in place to move Thunderbird off of XUL and XPCOM. If Thunderbird builds can happen without incurring the expense of building Gecko (and there's no reason that shouldn't be the ultimate goal), then community contributions in the form of code changes would likely increase several times over.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! XUL is really cool. Still one of my favorite GUI kits. It is like electron (but actually native!) and had a good reason to be slow (spidermonkey wasn't super fast) :( XPCOM kinda sucked but it is still better than MS COM
Did you know that "decomification" was a word?
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! XUL is really cool. Still one of my favorite GUI kits. It is like electron (but actually native!) and had a good reason to be slow (spidermonkey wasn't super fast) :( XPCOM kinda sucked but it is still better than MS COM
It's not that XUL was bad, exactly. But priorities have changed to security, battery life, and multi-threaded performance. The weight of XUL cruft that has built up over time was holding the project back.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/XUL/Tu...
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#150I wonder if they will oxidize(oxidate? rustify) it...
There need to be a very compelling reason to rewrite 7 million lines of code in a different language. The fact that there were enough of those to rewrite Firefox doesn't mean that it makes sense for other projects.