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Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Makes you wonder what we'll find out is being withheld right now, 50 years from now.

The obesity code by Dr. Jason Fung gives some great insights into what we know, and in the end it's quite simple. Our body regulates weight through insulin, so try to keep the insulin levels as low as possible and have extended periods every day where you don't eat.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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30–40 years later we might be saying the same thing about social media.

I wonder if people 80-100 years ago were as hysteric about radio and TV as we are today about social media.

You may be interested in the writings of Marshall McLuhan. He was a philosopher and analyst of media who wrote about the effects of television (and all other forms of media) and gained popularity in the 60's and 70's.

One point he noted was how instantaneous global communication via television (and later the internet) enabled terrorists to hijack global attention:

>Terrorism is an invention through which any two armed people can take over an entire industry, namely television, with the eager cooperation of its owners.

-Matshall McLuhan

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I'm all for eating way less sugar, but you might as well say people are addicted to food. The body needs energy, of course providing it with energy alters its physical and mental state.

Totally agree that in current times food is an addiction. Since when do we need to eat 3 meals a day? At least 90 percent of modern humans history, we used hunting and gathering to survive. Only in the last 10 percent we have agriculture, and much much later, refrigerators, supermarkets and convenience stores. If we needed this much food our species wouldn't last a week before agriculture. Spoiler alert: we lasted 30…

Agreed - and it's been proven (citation needed) that a low calorie diet prolonges life.

But here we are, needing to consume more energy because we do things (good, bad, useless or wasteful) with our time (and these things aren't directly looking for food.)

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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There's a documentary on Netflix about this, I think it's called Sugar x Fat.

There's 2 good documentaries I remember about the subject (though there's likely many more): That Sugar Film [1] and Fed Up [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Sugar_Film [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed_Up_(film)

+1 to Fed Up.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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The reason is that in the 1970s and 80s people started freaking out about fat. Everyone from the FDA to USDA to family doctor was telling people fat was bad. So food producers started making fat-free versions of everything. Only problem is it tasted like shit. So what did they do? They added sugar. So now you have sugar added to everything from salad dressing to pasta sauce to bread and muffins. The latter probably h…

There was no fat to remove from pasta sauce. Maybe they also figured out that sugar was addictive and added it everywhere to sell even more food with sugar?

If everything you are eating has sugar added, the item you eat without it will taste bitter and/or bland. Or the sugar made the bland (picked early etc) tomatoes used in the sauce more palateable.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Makes you wonder what we'll find out is being withheld right now, 50 years from now.

I sometimes wonder which materials I directly interact with on a regular basis that people in a few decades wouldn't touch for anything short of large amounts of money. History tells us there are probably a few. Guessing at least a couple are plastics or plastic additives/coatings of some kind. Maybe whatever they replaced BPA with. Possibly gasoline will qualify. Probably one or two things currently on/in our food.

I think we are about to go through a change in how flame retardants are classified and handled. The chemicals in use today (in clothing, mattresses, lounges and other fabrics) are known toxic and carcinogenic.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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The whole phenomenon of sugar and fructose being added to virtually everything is beyond comprehension. There are so many people, fat and slim, saying they don't want to be fat, yet eating foods with added sugar every day. Why not just replace all the added sugar with erythritol, for example? The whole situation with sugar reminds me of the situation with opium in early 19th century China

That comparison is a great one. Sugar is addictive as well.

Processed food isn't engineered and manufacturered to benefit the consumer. It's designed to increase consumption.

What's most troubling is, it seems, plenty of people can't connect the dots between what they consume and their health. It's disheartening that we need a law that says, "You can't look down and see your penis when you pee...watch what you eat." Where do ppl think all that extra weight comes from, sunshine?

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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The whole phenomenon of sugar and fructose being added to virtually everything is beyond comprehension. There are so many people, fat and slim, saying they don't want to be fat, yet eating foods with added sugar every day. Why not just replace all the added sugar with erythritol, for example? The whole situation with sugar reminds me of the situation with opium in early 19th century China

The reason is that in the 1970s and 80s people started freaking out about fat. Everyone from the FDA to USDA to family doctor was telling people fat was bad. So food producers started making fat-free versions of everything. Only problem is it tasted like shit. So what did they do? They added sugar. So now you have sugar added to everything from salad dressing to pasta sauce to bread and muffins. The latter probably h…

I just finished reading "Grain Brain" (as a follow up to "Wheat Belly" a couple yrs ago. GF aside, both books are - or should be - a wake up call. We're eating ourselves ill. So much so we don't even realize it.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I'm all for eating way less sugar, but you might as well say people are addicted to food. The body needs energy, of course providing it with energy alters its physical and mental state.

>drug: a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

You basically made his point for him.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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There was no fat to remove from pasta sauce. Maybe they also figured out that sugar was addictive and added it everywhere to sell even more food with sugar?

If everything you are eating has sugar added, the item you eat without it will taste bitter and/or bland. Or the sugar made the bland (picked early etc) tomatoes used in the sauce more palateable.

Sodium gets paired with sugar to manipulate the tastebuds. Taste has become a hyper-surreal experience.
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