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Introducing Surface Book 2

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Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by plexicle »

Jaqua wrote: post #34
pbnjay wrote: post #24

Why do no pics show the USB-A side of the system clearly? It's like they only want to talk about USB-C. Also I can't tell if it does USB-C Power Delivery or not? Or would I still need a separate charger for this? Would be really nice to only carry one charger for phone and laptop...

What phone charges with USB-C? From here: https://www.windowscentral.com/surface-book-2-tech-specs "Microsoft is still using its proprietary Surface Connect for power and the optional Surface Dock." aaah.. at the end: "Users can also recharge the Surface Book 2 with a USB Type-C charger as long as it is powerful enough. Devices can be charged from the Surface Book 2, such as a phone using USB Type-C."

Where have you been for the last... like 2-3 years?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by cleandreams »

TYPE_FASTER wrote: post #117

Having recently used a XPS 13, original Surface Book, Surface laptop, Surface Pro, and Lenovo T560, the Surface laptop is the clear winner for me. Definitely worth a look if you're looking for good Windows hardware, and don't need the discrete graphics capability of the Surface Book.

Curious. Why? I have a Surface Book and will be upgrading in a few months.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by PKop »

masklinn wrote: post #76
skywhopper wrote: post #66

This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

Yeah it's really frustrating. * this page is an ad copy with very little of interest * the store page ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-book-2/8MCPZ... ) has no date, no price and only hints at specs (you can pick a model but have no idea that e.g. the 13.5" i5 is iGP and the i7 is dGPU) * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book... has the actual stuff you want, with a detailed sp…

Even as ad copy it’s bad though

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by markcmyers »

skywhopper wrote: post #66

This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

As a former advertising executive, I can tell you what the problem is here. The writer and his boss who approved the copy aren't addressing the customer, they're addressing the boss's boss. In a dysfunctional organization like Microsoft, communicating up rather than out is how you get promoted. It's a rare Microsoft employee who moves up the ladder by thinking about the customer.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by zcoyle »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #81

I can't stand when companies say the latest version of a product is "the most powerful one ever". Why would that ever not be the case?

Even worse, they have both "most powerful ever" and "most powerful yet" in the copy. That reads really sloppy to to me.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by chokolad »

cleandreams wrote: post #142
TYPE_FASTER wrote: post #117

Having recently used a XPS 13, original Surface Book, Surface laptop, Surface Pro, and Lenovo T560, the Surface laptop is the clear winner for me. Definitely worth a look if you're looking for good Windows hardware, and don't need the discrete graphics capability of the Surface Book.

Curious. Why? I have a Surface Book and will be upgrading in a few months.

If you don't need tablet capability and power of Surface Book GPU, Surface Laptop is a very nice machine. It's similar to regular ultralights (something like MacBook maybe) rather than higher end Surface Books and MacBook Pros.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by masklinn »

binarycrusader wrote: post #134
masklinn wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not exactly surprising, it's a successor to the SB1 and competitor with the rMBP.

Indeed, with a 3:2 aspect ratio touch screen and WACOM-level stylus input (via ntrig).

And a superior GPU, but a significantly lower-class CPU (15W v 45).

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by TYPE_FASTER »

cleandreams wrote: post #142
TYPE_FASTER wrote: post #117

Having recently used a XPS 13, original Surface Book, Surface laptop, Surface Pro, and Lenovo T560, the Surface laptop is the clear winner for me. Definitely worth a look if you're looking for good Windows hardware, and don't need the discrete graphics capability of the Surface Book.

Curious. Why? I have a Surface Book and will be upgrading in a few months.

I prefer the smaller form factor and lighter weight of the laptop. I realized I never undocked the screen on the Surface Book, which might be different for other users. I don't need a GPU for what I do. I never used the pen, which doesn't come with the laptop.

One downside to the laptop is it only comes with a single USB-C port, so you'll probably need a hub.

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