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Post by mc32 »

Tharkun wrote: post #104

Pardon the tangent, but here's a quote from their website: > There’s a reason titanium is used to build rockets and replace bones. Unlike aluminum, which is what most phones are made of, titanium doesn’t scratch, dent, or bend. The reason why titanium is used to replace bones is not its strength (though it certainly doesn't hurt). It's because titanium is the most biocompatible metal and has a capacity for osseointeg…

When mac books needed some pep in marketing, as sales floundered, Jobs also diverged into Titanium in lieu of faster uPs. After that wore off he went to the unwieldy 17" Mac Books.

Often times Titanium is just a marketing ploy. Like titanium cards. Titanium bracelets. Etc.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by y04nn »

lolsal wrote: post #48

> Your phone is your personal property. It’s a public expression of who you are and what you stand for. No, it's really not. It's literally just a tool I use for communication.

This quote from Antoine de Saint Exupéry fits pretty well here, if there is any french passing by.

J'interdis aux marchands de vanter trop leur marchandises. Car ils se font vite pédagogues et t'enseignent comme but ce qui n'est par essence qu'un moyen, et te trompant ainsi sur la route à suivre les voilà bientôt qui te dégradent, car si leur musique est vulgaire ils te fabriquent pour te la vendre une âme vulgaire. Or, s'il est bon que les objets soient fondés pour servir les hommes il serait monstrueux que les hommes fussent fondés pour servir de poubelles aux objets.

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Post by dmitrygr »

fhood wrote: post #99
git-pull wrote: post #85

I admire the gumption of making a new phone. But controlled obsolescence kills me. The real feature that improves in phones the past few years for me is the software and apps, not the hardware . My wishlist: - Give me a lighter, snappier OS. Not something clunkier and slower and uses more ram, gpu/cpu (aka battery life). - Actually support updates to the things for longer than 2-3 years. - (Not related to this phone)…

All I want is to get google fi on an iphone. Ok battery, reasonable lifetime (I can usually get 3.5 years out of an iphone) and cheap international data.

You can insert a Fi sim into an iPhone. Officially this isn't supported, but you'll get reasonable service. What you won't get: auto switching between us cellular, TMobile, and Sprint; support; wifi calling via fi; and the Fi app. What you will get: TMobile service; International roaming at Fi rates; voice, data, and text.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by swiley »

git-pull wrote: post #85

I admire the gumption of making a new phone. But controlled obsolescence kills me. The real feature that improves in phones the past few years for me is the software and apps, not the hardware . My wishlist: - Give me a lighter, snappier OS. Not something clunkier and slower and uses more ram, gpu/cpu (aka battery life). - Actually support updates to the things for longer than 2-3 years. - (Not related to this phone)…

At this point I would buy any phone that shipped their OS as a buildroot or openwrt fork with a mainline Linux kernel. At that point you /know/ it's going to be updated.

I wouldn't even mind using FBterm for everything and not having a "modern" webbrowser, I don't think I've ever gotten anything usefull done on a mobile browser anyway.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by LeonM »

valine wrote: post #72
LeonM wrote: post #49

It's amazing for me to see that Apple, once lightyears ahead with the original iPhone, is now being overtaken by small companies with features such as bezel less displays, wireless charging, high bandwidth data coupling etc. Of course we'll have to see if Essential can actually deliver on their promise...

Essential doesn't need to ship the massive quantities Apple does. And anyway, Apple is getting ready to announce a bezel-free iPhone in September.

They are announcing after Essential and months after Samsung, so they are behind the competition.

So, my observation that Apple is no longer ahead of the competition (in terms of innovation, not volume) holds true.

But of course I am being downvoted into oblivion...

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by jfoutz »

sidcool wrote: post #131
smichel17 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Playing devil's advocate, is that not itself a statement of sorts?

I don't get you

A marketing person would say you like simplicity and reliability. You'll probably pay more for something if it has perceived quality above it's peers. Being slightly overbuilt leads to reliability.

For example, you have a good chance of wearing boots rather than sneakers, because they can deal with mud puddles or snow or whatever. They cost more, but they are simple and reliable in all environments.

You are expressing those values, other people pick up on it. just because you don't cultivate an image, you still have an image.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by eschneider »

Tharkun wrote: post #104

Pardon the tangent, but here's a quote from their website: > There’s a reason titanium is used to build rockets and replace bones. Unlike aluminum, which is what most phones are made of, titanium doesn’t scratch, dent, or bend. The reason why titanium is used to replace bones is not its strength (though it certainly doesn't hurt). It's because titanium is the most biocompatible metal and has a capacity for osseointeg…

Talk about lock in...

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by gnicholas »

> Every year, like clockwork, manufacturers make “design tweaks” and launch new features and products that work well if you choose to stay in their ecosystem. You buy their phone, TV, speaker, and fridge with the promise of simplicity, but more and more often, this is a way to force loyalty.

Good thing they're not doing that!

> We also plan to release new wireless accessories (like our snap-on 360º Camera) every few months. That schedule ensures that the latest technology will always be in the palm of your hand without having to replace your phone. These accessories will also work with other products like Essential Home.

Spoke too soon.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by WaltPurvis »

0xbear wrote: post #46

Now we'll know exactly how many Andy Rubin fanboys there are in the world. Why would anyone else buy a $700+ phone from a startup which might not even be there next year? My prediction: a few tens of thousand units will be sold mostly in the US, darn near zero anywhere else.

> My prediction: a few tens of thousand units will be sold

Woah. Tens of thousands? I would think a few thousand at most. There must be more to this story than I'm currently aware of. (This is the first I've ever heard of it.)

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