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Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Post by s73ver »

on_and_off wrote: post #93
imron wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "When You install and use the Services, Truecaller will collect personal information from You and any devices You may use in Your interaction with our Services. This information may include e.g.: geo-location; Your IP address; device ID or unique identifier; device manufacturer and type; device and hardware settings; SIM card usage; applications installed on your device; ID for advertising; ad data,…

Again, if the dialer is a system component does this and you can't remove it, you are out of luck. Since the dialer is an app, if for some reason you don't like it, you can deactivate it (you can't uninstall preloaded apps since they are on a private system partition, but disabling it is enough : it does not appear in the app least and can't startup). So you just have to install another that suits you better.

The thing that did that IS a system component. They can't remove it. They can only disable it.

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Post by s73ver »

onli wrote: post #83
nylonstrung wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you can find an android device that has a physical keypad, root it and disable any call or mobile data functionality while keeping SMS intact.

Actually, that's not that easy. There are not many android phones with keyboard, and even less with a proper community for rooting it. I wouldn't know a single one.

If all they want is messaging, with no apps, then any of the older ones should be fine.

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Post by bennyp101 »

When I updated it at the weekend, I too noticed that the dialer had gone - which is annoying as I find the interface to Truecaller a bit of a pain - but as I rarely make calls it's something I can live with. The incoming call filtering and showing of names not in my phonebook is actually pretty useful.

When I bought my Wileyfox Swift 18 months ago it came with Truecaller as an app already installed, and it integrated with the standard dialer well - ie I could use the dialer app to make calls, and incoming calls would show info from Trucaller. Not sure why they couldn't keep it like that.

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Post by krrrh »

sailingparrot wrote: post #3

Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?

I mostly use data-only SIMs on my phone and make/receive the very few calls I need to via VOIP, which is almost certainly the near future.

For instance in Myanmar, where they have only had widespread mobile phone service for a couple of years, the most popular phone plans from Oodooroo are sold as data-only, and include info for downloading a VOIP app for legacy calls. I had an amusing time in one of their stores watching a perplexed staff try to deal with an older foreign man who frustratingly demanded to know how much he would need to pay for 100 "minutes". They just keept referring him to the chart that showed plans ranked only by the number of GBs.

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Post by DanitaBaires »

ceejayoz wrote: post #128
krrrh wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mobile phones are called "Handys" in German. It's become such a satisfying and appropriate name for handheld computers, as distinct from traditional personal computers. In British English, they've always called cellphones "mobiles", which is also a nice short name for mobile computers.

In American English, a handy means... something else. Mobile could work, though, and I've heard it used.

In Argentina is "el celular" as in "teléfono celular", or sometimes like in Spain "el móvil" which I like better because it means "the mobile", which in the long term could mean "the mobile computer".

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ceejayoz wrote: post #128
krrrh wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mobile phones are called "Handys" in German. It's become such a satisfying and appropriate name for handheld computers, as distinct from traditional personal computers. In British English, they've always called cellphones "mobiles", which is also a nice short name for mobile computers.

In American English, a handy means... something else. Mobile could work, though, and I've heard it used.

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Post by fpgeek »

s73ver wrote: post #132
mcherm wrote: post #8

I completely disagree with the title. The fact that "telephony" can be an app on the phone is a WONDERFUL thing. It means that the author of this article has a choice, as opposed to NOT having a choice.

They can't uninstall the app that comes, and it was forced on them through an update. That's a terrible thing, no matter how you try and spin it.

So when Google updated the Nexus dialer to include search-based "Caller ID" that was a bad thing? Or when Google upgraded Messenger to include RCS support?

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Post by dredmorbius »

sailingparrot wrote: post #3

Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?

MiniSec.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/imperial-earth/oclc/978140493&...

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Post by jpindar »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #70
nkrisc wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.

I refer to it occasionally as my hand terminal. That said, it sucks as a hand terminal, because everything it does everything through vendor-locked, cloud-enabled shitty apps with almost no interoperability. If this is how future of computing is going to look, then I'm sorely disappointed.

What sort of interoperability are you lacking? I have apps on my phone that can view or edit most of the file formats I use regularly, and transferring files is easy enough (with or without a network connection). The apps are not as full featured as the equivalent desktop program, but I don't need them to be.

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Post by gambiting »

DanitaBaires wrote: post #145
ceejayoz wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In American English, a handy means... something else. Mobile could work, though, and I've heard it used.

In Argentina is "el celular" as in "teléfono celular", or sometimes like in Spain "el móvil" which I like better because it means "the mobile", which in the long term could mean "the mobile computer".

In Polish it's "komórka" which literally means "a cell"(like a cell in your body).
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