I don't understand what this has to do with HN. Swedish immigration...? How..?
I guess it's interesting enough, but I just don't see the link. Why is it being upvoted so much?
Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
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Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's totally irrelevant that the crimes has decreased. The point is that a majority of all violence and sexual crimes is performed by immigrants (as confirmed by Sweden's most famous crime professor GW a couple of days ago). Why are you so afraid to see that immigrants are over represented in this category of crimes?
They talk about it in the article > People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background [...] In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. So it seems that whil…
This is plainly wrong. Socioeconomic factors are not the major ones. Culture, habits and social conditioning in general are. People who do not share (or even comprehend) the shared values of other cultures have no respect to them and perceive others as "aliens". This works both ways. The cultural incompatibility and different social conditioning are the major factors.
Basically, well-educated people of any origin would behave more or less similarly, according to common shared values (or a subculture) while on the other side of the spectrum the differences could be huge and fundamental. One just have to call the things by its real names.
Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
In your Twitter account, you seem ready enough to admit the reality of political violence, and even to commend it. (Retweet: "If US folks wanna see more nazi punching, just look at the attempted Pegida rally last year in Dublin. alt-hugs given freely")
I personally agree with him, I can't see the problem.
To avoid misunderstanding, are you saying that it's acceptable to physically assault people because of their opinion, or do you "agree" with something else?
Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#144Wikileaks: Swedish media admits to censoring stories for the last five years on migrant crime
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/688999781193117696?lang...
Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
They talk about it in the article > People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background [...] In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. So it seems that whil…
I'd say THAT is irrelevant. If I become victim of a crime, it doesn't console me if the perpetrator is poor. I just don't want to become a victim of a crime.
The point isn't to console you. The point is to explain why crime happens, so it can be mitigated. Ie:
* Stop immigration.
OR
* Integrate poor people into society, the workforce, etc.
Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
This political correctness can have a serious backswing when people go to vote. As we have seen in US, and as we will see in Europe.
I understand that one motivation behind not providing crime breakdowns by ethnicity is to avoid providing information that might be used without context to justify hate. But it is also a little racist to try to hide the problem, as if criminality is inherent to the ethnicity and cannot be solved, so may as well be ignored.
Collecting data about ethnicity is always problematic because the definitions are fundamentally fluid.
Finnish people were considered Asian in some American states in the early 20th century. Should they be included in crime statistics with Chinese?
Also, if police are required to collect this data, who else is? Should you be able to look up the registered ethnicity of a person similar to how anyone can look up tax returns in Sweden (and other Nordic countries)? If not, why not?
Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#147I mistook these picture for the members of Abba: https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/wanted/(RequestingCou...
hilarious
Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
They talk about it in the article > People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background [...] In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. So it seems that whil…
I'd say THAT is irrelevant. If I become victim of a crime, it doesn't console me if the perpetrator is poor. I just don't want to become a victim of a crime.
It is relevant to the topic of how to prevent crime - it tells you that eliminating immigration won't help, but that addressing poverty will.
Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#149The government of Sweden, which has been censoring news articles about Islamic rape and failing to punish Islamic rapists, says these are facts, so don't worry? Give me a break.
The swedish government has no censorship powers.
It's not that simple. There's a lot happening on this front, and when the government controls a substantial part of the economy, they have effective censorship powers even when they're not actually burning books.
National economist Tino Sanandaji has been writing about how BRÅ (Brottsförebyggande rådet) has ceased to make statistics about immigration-rateld crime, for political reasons.
He published a book about this subject [1], and it's quite a success, but libraries are refusing to buy it because it is "inciting hatred". ("Mein Kampf" and very many extreme-left books are still available from the same libraries, they are not "inciting hatred".)
Tino Sanandaji and people like Hanif Bali are, however, able to write about the subject without much fear or prosecution, because they have a Middle-East immigrant background themselves.
[1] https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massutmaning
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Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's totally irrelevant that the crimes has decreased. The point is that a majority of all violence and sexual crimes is performed by immigrants (as confirmed by Sweden's most famous crime professor GW a couple of days ago). Why are you so afraid to see that immigrants are over represented in this category of crimes?
They talk about it in the article > People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background [...] In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. So it seems that whil…
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