Leaked Apple emails reveal employees' complaints about toxic work environment

Post by MrLeftHand » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 11:56 AM UTC

applethrow2 wrote: post #96

I'm risking a lot here... Apple employee here: I only want to provide context. None of us want a toxic environment. We, at Apple, pride ourselves on the fact that we are accepting of all backgrounds, nationalities, genders, religions. I, personally, have struggled with ensuring a diverse set of folks on my team or all backgrounds. We love the fact that we're helping to lead the industry with regard to diversity. And…

Post by eli » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 12:01 PM UTC

flukus wrote: post #120

tanqueray wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Person 4's fascist solipsism is astounding. She has transferred the "toxicity" and "unacceptability"in her own mind onto the whole team. A song was referred to but there was no actual mention of sexual assault. The song is not "completely unacceptable" as it is obviously commonly known and legally sold. It is therefore acceptable in the workplace, referred to as it actually was.

It's also clear that she has listened to the song enough to know the words too. So she was happy offending herself.

Post by MrLeftHand » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 12:06 PM UTC

eli wrote: post #142

MrLeftHand wrote: post #138

It's like the penny-arcade d kwolf joke over again. Or the spiderwoman crawling pose. From the article feels like they were joking about everyone getting raped, including men. Anyway, rape is a serious crime, no doubt about that and the joke might have crossed a line. But were do we draw a line by getting offended or not? These lines are pushed further out every time and sometimes limiting freedoms. Also, men can be…

Rape jokes should not be told at work, period.

Post by keithnz » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 12:13 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #123

keithnz wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because in a workspace the culture is one of inclusiveness, the onus on you is to be inclusive, I'm sorry to say, that's going to require some awareness on your part. But don't worry, it will likely just make you a better person overall.

A workplace is not required to ensure you're not offended, only that you're not sexually harassed, harrases in general, or discriminated against (if a protected class). A workplace can also not force inclusiveness. I fear that the swing in PC culture is going to cause more harm than good for "inclusiveness" now that the pendulum has swung too far.

Post by DanBC » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 12:27 PM UTC

tdkl wrote: post #133

guessmyname wrote: post #24

Why are most of these articles about harassment in the office associated with American companies? Are women from other countries afraid to speak about this? Or are American women just overreacting? In this specific case I understand that insinuating a rape scenario — which by the way is not against women but "everybody" — in a work environment is bad, but without knowing what other toxic comments or behavior happened…

> Why are most of these articles about harassment in the office associated with American companies? From my other comment : This is a western syndrome of "our lives aren't in imminent danger, we don't have to think about harvesting food and information is at reach" boredom.