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When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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Other terrible side effects of our subsidies are a reliable food supply as we overproduce far beyond what's necessary which makes us nearly immune to supply shocks like pre-1930s america. Ever heard of famine in the united states in recent memory? Didn't think so. Know what else causes nutritional deficiency? Not eating. While there may be some problems with our current system, they are firmly in the "good problem to…

> protectionism is justified for critical functions Then don't complain about other countries' protectionism. They also have the right to decide what is critical to them, right?

I didn't. ;)

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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The West and China are playing a global chess game and have been for some time. An impoverished China was not in the West's interests and so they agreed to buy all kinds of lowish tech Chinese made goods. In return most jurisdictions enforced a balance of trade with China, with the exception of the US. On their end China insisted on joint ventures and technology transfer to the extent Western companies would comply.…

I'm hoping a genuine, knock-down drag-out economic competition will get an American president back up on the podium saying stuff more like "We choose to go to the moon" instead of this useless, vague "great again" nonsense.

> saying stuff more like "We choose to go to the moon"

So ... building space missile technology for a cold war arms race?

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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post #7

The West and China are playing a global chess game and have been for some time. An impoverished China was not in the West's interests and so they agreed to buy all kinds of lowish tech Chinese made goods. In return most jurisdictions enforced a balance of trade with China, with the exception of the US. On their end China insisted on joint ventures and technology transfer to the extent Western companies would comply.…

It seems to me that China outplayed the West here by a wide margin. For some reason, the West has let China get away with extremely protectionist trade policies the likes of which no one else in the world would dare even attempt. I think this was a combination of fear that isolating China vs creating a high degree of economic interdependence could lead to war down the line, and a lack of control over Western companie…

No, the West does not need to respond in kind. Unilateral free trade is better than tit-for-tat escalations. Let them protect their own; in the long run we'll be better off for allowing free-trade even when our counterparties do not.

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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I think his point is that there are some boundaries over which we do not go, at least not easily. Meanwhile the disregard of Chinese governments for Chinese citizens can fill volumes :)

If you think the US government or industry haven't then it's because you've never read any history.

I've read plenty and the casualties are an order of magnitude bigger on the Chinese side.

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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I just saw the new Star Wars -- cofinanced by (e:) Alibaba films. In it, one of the moral cruxes of the main story was that the crew needed 'Unity'. I saw this as a subtle shift from american 'Freedom'. There's a point where some 'good guys' are being held prisoner. In any red-blooded American Hollywood Film, this would lead to 'GIVE US OUR FREEDOM' type resistance. In this movie, it led to 'WE NEED UNITY' resistance…

Do you by any chance mean Star Trek and Alibaba films?

Yes, thank you for pointing that out, edited my post.

e: Augh, I missed changing the Star Wars -> Star Trek edit and now I can't edit; I have permanently lost nerd cred for making that mixup ;_;

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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Independence Day, a blue-blooded American Hollywood Film if there ever was one, is also all about unity.

Think you mean red-blooded. "Ordinary People" is a blue-blooded American Hollywood film.

That would be my mistake -- I said blue-blooded in my original post and I meant red-blooded as you have pointed out.

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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"stealing of trade secrets [...] is more of a theoretical argument" I just wanted to point out this pretty amazing sentence.

What is so amazing about this sentence?

in theory it's stealing something very very very abstwact?

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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"And watch while we are plunged into a recession due to a huge disruption in global supply chains." WHAT supply chain? There is NO supply chain anymore. JIT (Just-In-Time) inventory has been replaced by BLTN (Better-Late-Than-Never) and AGNM (Ain't-Got-No-More) inventory. Went to a large box store on the weekend. They had empty containers marked "Display" on the shelves. Two different employees explained that I shoul…

Your anecdotes are not data.

They're anecdata, the best kind of data for those with an agenda or those without brains.
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