Apple launches coding camps for kids in its retail stores

Post by tptacek » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 10:03 PM UTC

jshevek wrote: post #121

jahewson wrote: post #109

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By that logic Apple's users could have purchased cheaper non-Apple products and donated the remaining money to non-profits. This entire line of moral reasonsing just doesn't work. Charitable causes do not trump the entirety of the rest of human endeavour and for-profit entities are not intrinsically amoral.

> Charitable causes do not trump the entirety of the rest of human endeavour and for-profit entities are not intrinsically amoral. These are trivial near-tautologies addressing irrelevant and extreme positions. For example, some "charitable" causes are outright corrupt. > By that logic Apple's users could have purchased cheaper non-Apple products and donated the remaining money to non-profits. Most of us buy expensiv…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 10:07 PM UTC

taytus wrote: post #115

Why surprised? This is HN

Post by eanzenberg » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 10:08 PM UTC

jshevek wrote: post #51

rm_-rf_slash wrote: post #4

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It's still better than nothing. If Uncle Ben's rice donates its branded rice to victims of a natural disaster - provided the containers say "Uncle Ben's Rice" - would you refuse it for a generic?

Straw man - you misrepresent the argument. Uncle Ben's is merely a brand. After you've gotten used to one brand of rice, there is truly zero switching cost to switch to another brand.

Post by gshulegaard » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 10:09 PM UTC

gdubs wrote: post #136

gshulegaard wrote: post #63

I am pretty surprised by the general lack luster comments bordering on negativity here. Personally, I think it is great to see a major retailer take even a misguided stab at improving child tech education which has quickly fallen behind demand (in America). Do I think the approach is more than a little bit wrong? Sure, GUI programming a non-useful task wouldn't be my choice. Would I prefer a more robust longer-term p…

I'm reading "Bringing up Bébé" – a book written by an American woman who raises her child in Paris. When they take their toddler girl to swim lessons, everyone is in the pool swimming around together. Occasionally the instructor swims up to them and says, "hello". Eventually, on the third class she finally says, "Excuse me, but when are you going to actually, you know, teach my kid to swim?". The instructor smiles an…

Post by jshevek » Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 10:11 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #141

jshevek wrote: post #121

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> Charitable causes do not trump the entirety of the rest of human endeavour and for-profit entities are not intrinsically amoral. These are trivial near-tautologies addressing irrelevant and extreme positions. For example, some "charitable" causes are outright corrupt. > By that logic Apple's users could have purchased cheaper non-Apple products and donated the remaining money to non-profits. Most of us buy expensiv…

You're still not making sense. You seem to believe that Apple should not be running coding camps out of their stores, which exist whether or not they're used for coding camps. That's silly.