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How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not an American, but I believe they are referring to the racist meme that associates fried chicken to Americans of non-white ethnicities. This differs from the UK where fried chicken is more associated with the lower classes than a particular race.

And also coffee shops are associated to white people.

As Shaq says, "black people don't drink coffee"

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/shaquille-o-...

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

I don't think it would be.

Yes, the basis for the hypothesis is fried chicken -> black people and craft coffee -> white hipsters. But that's actually what happens with gentrification. Diverse neighbourhoods get plowed over with rich white people.

Using race in an analysis doesn't make it racist. OP saying they wouldn't want to live in the places with fried chicken, in the context above (KFC->black people) would be.

I'd say the piece itself rides the line. It has a sarcastic tone throughout the piece, more of a "let's find out where the gentrification is" than "let's go live there".

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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He seems to be measuring current housing prices, but if his goal is to measure "up and coming" areas, shouldn't he try to correlate between ratio of fried chicken vs coffee shops in PREVIOUS years, and change of prices in the following years?

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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A more interesting indicator that authors may consider is how many people living in the area do jogging. When I moved to London's SE4 postcode three years ago (it's pretty close to Peckham, FWIW), the regeneration of the area has just started and the more middle-class looking people appeared around, the more men and women in running gear were visible in the streets in the morning. Poor on average take worse care of t…

Maybe poor on average can't exercise or buy health shit because they are working enriching those fucking joggers lives by working in factories, restaurants, kitchen, toilet and whatever other material whims of the privileged.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's anecdotal, but enough reliable anecdotes do actually turn into "data". My personal marker has always been, when visiting a city for the first time, to pay attention to the roadside advertisements I see on the ride from the airport to the city center. Aside from obvious things like payday/title loan shops, the most reliable indicator I've seen of a neighborhood being badly off is ads for cheap dentures and dental…

I live in one of the more affluent areas of my town. In is a dental implant center a single title loan store. In the same area are 5 starbucks and a few locally owned coffee shops. The title loan shop I always wondered why it was there since I assumed it didn't get much business. What I'm confused about though is the dental implants. Perfect teeth are completely disposable income.

Dentures and implants are more about functioning teeth than "perfect" teeth. Poor folks can live with unsightly teeth but they can't subsist entirely on jello. Patients with unlimited dental budgets will be aggressively sold on root canals and veneers by every dentist they see. Most dentists don't want to make dentures or place implants, so they price themselves out of that market.

However, some dentists make inexpensive dentures, and poor patients will drive hundreds of miles to see those dentists. Because such dentists make 20x as many dentures as their higher-priced colleagues, they're much better at it. In this case price is negatively correlated with quality. The implant market isn't quite like that yet, but it's going in that direction.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

I don't think it would be. Yes, the basis for the hypothesis is fried chicken -> black people and craft coffee -> white hipsters. But that's actually what happens with gentrification. Diverse neighbourhoods get plowed over with rich white people. Using race in an analysis doesn't make it racist. OP saying they wouldn't want to live in the places with fried chicken, in the context above (KFC->black people) would be. I…

Here's to hoping that you're just trolling. Your reply injects very specific racial and socio-economic biases as if they were already assumed and understood. Which, in this context, is basically racism.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

This analysis would be perceived by hyper-sensitive Liberals as racist, even if it had validity to its claim. And in the next breath they would lament the lack of "real conversations" we're having in the country.

Racism can manifest itself in ways that can be measured, thus hypothesis can be formed and tested for validity.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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post #94
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also coffee shops are associated to white people.

Wait. I must not have gotten the memo. I hate coffee and love fried chicken.

White people with taste often have the same tastes as black people. 'Twas ever thus.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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post #49

> Poor on average take worse care of their health and fitness Not intended to be snarky, as I grok the intent of your comment, but poor also don't typically have time to come home and go for an hour jog with frequency during the week.

Working poor tend to do more physically demanding labor, so that is still correlated with less jogging.
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