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Re: Chris Poole

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Post by spbaar »

pervycreeper wrote: post #69

>And he’s come out the other side with his soul and his spirit intact. I have trouble believing this one. Poole has stated that the controversies 4chan was involved in in September had a big negative personal impact, principally dealing with legal threats from celebrities who had their photos leaked on the site. Two other events, which he conspicuously hasn't commented on would have unquestionably left scars on his e…

This cuck thing is new to me. All I can find are some photos of them and they look like friends. She mentioned that he carried her luggage (maybe it was heavy?). Were users just being mean to him for fun or is there some more evidence I can't find? It's hard to find information about this.

The banning of gamergate discussion didn't sit well for me, but I don't go to /v/ so I didn't care too much. Unless there was a specific explanation for it, I imagine the decision was to stop raiding and harassment, which seems reasonable considering it was borne out of two specific cases of harassing sjws. I found any gamergate discussion nauseating after about a month since it quickly came to encompass every single aspect of misogyny real or perceived in the gaming industry and the stakes themselves were so incredibly low. I cannot physically care about kotaku reviews. It would be like taking nyt trend pieces seriously.

That was a long aside. Anyway, was there ever a reason given about gamergate banning or a reason to think it was a situation similar to sinfest?

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by iopq »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #100
yarou wrote: post #95

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You may not see it that way, but the negative experiences of your life have probably taught you more, influenced the core of your personality, and made you grow more than the positive ones.

There are plenty of ways in which people get simply harmed with no "benefit", or even crushed. By definition we only ever talk with those who survive in some way, and I think it's best to leave it up to a person to decide how they feel about bad things in their life, and what it did or didn't do for them. If you suffered through horrible things and grew from it with no permanent damage, that's great (no sarcasm inten…

Your happiness goes to the baseline anyway. Even if something made you unhappy, unless it has permanent effects it usually only lasts so long.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by anon4 »

LLWM wrote: post #116
austenallred wrote: post #36

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Most people think 4chan is /b/, because that's where all the worst stuff happens. Imagine if reddit had an "anything legal goes" subreddit - it would be pretty messed up. Other boards can be pretty tame.

No, people think that because it's bigger than everything else put together, the fountainhead of the site's culture, and is the source of virtually everything notable that's ever happened there.

>everything notable

cough gamergate started on /v/ cough

But I get what you're saying. /b/ really is the largest board. In a way it's meant to be the containment board, or the moat around the castle. It's where all the shit goes, so it doesn't pollute the rest of the site. And oh boy, is the internet full of shit.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by ryan-allen »

yarou wrote: post #95
Natsu wrote: post #88

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> Good times only exist because bad times exist to weigh them against. Good times would merely be "times" without bad times. That sounds very poetic, but I honestly don't think that any of the horrible things that have happened to me have made me enjoy life more.

You may not see it that way, but the negative experiences of your life have probably taught you more, influenced the core of your personality, and made you grow more than the positive ones.

It depends on how negative they are. Deployed to Afghanistan, is the PTSD worth it? Abused or neglected as a child, is the stunted development worth it? I don't think so.

Honestly I don't think you can sugar-coat negative experiences.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by bru »

huskyr wrote: post #135

> There aren’t many who understand the Internet like Chris. > (...) I am talking about the social architecture of > the Internet. I think i'm not the only one interested in how Chris understands the internet. Maybe he should write a book.

His Ted talk (https://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_m00t_poole_the_case_fo...) is very interesting.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by _khau »

aerovistae wrote: post #23
irl_zebra wrote: post #19

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"not just spam, but gore, cp, raids, etc." (I'm assuming cp means children) "The good news is that I've recently returned to 4chan as a regular, anonymous user, and I'm really enjoying it." I've never visited the site, and really don't want to. So maybe I'm missing something, but why would you want to associate yourself with a place like that? It seems like even spending time there as an anonymous user would change y…

I like to see it from the outside, where you only get linked to the "best of." 4Chan can be extremely hilarious sometimes; some of the funniest content I've seen on the internet is from 4Chan. But spending any real time there looking for that content, waiting for it, that's a waste in my eyes.

I hate the ubiquitous use of the word 'content' to describe absolutely anything on the internet now.

As if it belongs behind some kind of gate with locks that we should all feel priveleged to have had access to.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by anon4 »

wingerlang wrote: post #111
Crito wrote: post #106

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Reddit has subreddits dedicated to the foulest stuff that you'll ever occasionally see on 4chan. That has historically included borderline illegal content, with literally illegal content mixed in. Reddit's reputation of being better than 4chan is entirely undeserved.

Why are people comparing reddit and 4chan anyway? They are two completely different sites.

Both are interest-separated discussion boards. Reddit bills itself as more news-oriented, but quite often it serves as a regular threaded forum where the first post sets the context.

After reddit got big, we started seeing (well, started speculating that we're seeing) a lot of people come to 4chan after initially cutting their internet discussion teeth on reddit. There were speculations of a secret irc cabal of redditors, who collude to drive threads offtopic and in general mould board culture to be more reddit-like. To this day I'm not sure if those allegations were insubstantiated. We did have several prominent spammers who comandeered fleets of hundreds of proxies and spammed threads they didn't like with random-generated posts. These were obviously not redditors, but given there are people who care enough and have free time enough... In short, 4chan is a magical place.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by asdfzxcv0 »

monaway wrote: post #126
nemothekid wrote: post #121

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> Some of the best original content creators and experienced posters migrated to 8ch, taking the mantle from 4chan as the authentic core of internet culture. I find it very confusing that 8ch users tend to hold this "migration" as a huge event in 4chan history. As far as the archives can tell, the whole "gamergate" scandal had no affect on traffic and even more confusing is the fact that outside of /v/, no one really…

>I find it very confusing that 8ch users tend to hold this "migration" as a huge event in 4chan history. As far as the archives can tell, the whole "gamergate" scandal had no affect on traffic I'm sure HN users will understand that quantity != quality. HN's community is certainly not without its faults, but I doubt that anyone would argue in 2015 that Reddit is the better site for discussing topics relevant to HN's i…

>Whenever I've visited 4chan since then, it feels like a completely different site from what I remember not even a year ago.

"Remember when 4chan was good." "4chan was never good." This isn't new - the term "x is the cancer killing 4chan", where x is facebook, reddit, normalf--s, newf--s, its almost as old as the site itself.

>moot and company were compromising 4chan's core values.

4chan never had any core values - and it certainly wasn't founded on any. The moderators have always held the power to ban you on a whim. You could still be banned for posting Naruto (an anime) on /a/ (the anime board), as early as last year. The vast majority do not subscribe to your self defined faux-values .

>and outright banning a controversial topic was the last straw

How this any different from the banning of any other "controversial" topics, that tend to flood specific boards? Is your recollection that bad? What about Project Chanology? While 4chan has been relatively anything goes, moot has never made the promise that he wouldn't ban you for things he didn't like. In any case GamerGate is not videogames and there wasn't any reason why he couldn't ban it, or regulate the conversation back to /b/.

Again, "8ch.co", is largely a collection a users who have got butthurt that moot wouldn't take their side in SJW boogeyman witchhunt. Its so apparent given the fact none of the community outside /v/ really moved to 8ch. /a/, /co/, /tv/, /sp/ and /fit/ hardly exist on 8c. If it were really the case that 4chan users were having a mass exodus, 8ch's user base would be much more diverse than the site statistics claim.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by arrrg »

derefr wrote: post #77
arrrg wrote: post #73

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You mean people are super-abrasive and think that’s just normal? I don’t think that’s honesty, that’s being an asshole.

By "honesty", I think the GP meant that people get to act like assholes when they want to act like assholes, rather than feeling like they have to hold in their feelings based on how an outburst might affect their reputation. Those same people then go on to have perfectly friendly and nice conversations (or at least the bar-room-poking-fun equivalent) in other threads. To me, that seems pretty "honest": you get to se…

The culture on 4chan is such that people are actively encouraged to be assholes more frequently. They start to play their role. That’s not honesty, that’s performance.

I think you are completely ignoring the impact culture has on behavior. This notion that people somehow hold it in if they are not mean to one another and that they would actually and in all honesty rather scream at each other – that’s such a foreign concept to me. Some people just honestly don’t have to hold back because they are just not like that, at least not all the time.

Do you not see that being abrasive can just as much be an act as being polite?

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