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LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
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Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think calling him a rapist is correct. AFAIK, no-one (including him and his lawyers) is contesting the accusations against him, including the one that he had sex with a sleeping woman, which IMO is definitely rape. Of course, I still think that the whole charade around having him extradited to Sweden for questioning is just a tiny little bit too convenient for the powers-that-be to think it's only about the rape.
The people he "raped" were singing his praises on Twitter after the supposed incident took place. The woman only went to the police to see if she could compel him to take an STD test. "definitely rape" is so far off base, it's ridiculous. You're either gravely misinformed, or shilling.
That's quite irrelevant. Rape is prosecuted by the state, not by the victim. If an action fits the definition of rape (e.g. having sex with a person who is unconscious and thus unable to consent), it's rape, no matter what the "victim" feels about it. The purpose of the courts is not only to seek retribution, but also to discourage similar behavior in the future.
I agree that Swedish definition of rape is a bit bonkers (e.g. I don't think that "sex without a condom" is rape, at most it's "fraud" or "lying"), but I think that sex with a sleeping person is always rape (unless you've been explicitly given consent that it's OK beforehand).
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
KDC reminds me a bit of Clive Palmer.
How so? (Palmer seems to be a very much honorable businessman to me.)
You serious? Leaves calamity in his wake. All about populist policies without a great deal of substance. Parallel IMO is along the lines of doing whatever suits him and maybe incidentally benefiting others along the way.
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
How so? (Palmer seems to be a very much honorable businessman to me.)
You serious? Leaves calamity in his wake. All about populist policies without a great deal of substance. Parallel IMO is along the lines of doing whatever suits him and maybe incidentally benefiting others along the way.
I don't see the parallel with KDC at all. Assuming we're talking about the same Australian politician here.
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#135It's interesting despite being a Kim Dotcom event, despite his comments and ads. The others don't seem too happy about that either.
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just the picture byline I find interesting: "Julian Assange has made it clear that he is available for questioning by the Swedish authorities, in Britain or via Skype." Since when do those under suspicion get to dictate to the authorities how they conduct their investigation?
They don't, but Assange being somewhat paranoid is something the Swedes should be able to accommodate, especially if they want to resolve the case. Their strategy makes more sense if they don't actually want to resolve that case.
I think the content of what Assange and Wikileaks has delivered since Assange's rise to fame/infamy is far more worthy than this conversation. How about you all get back to the point.
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> While I find Dotcom to be a epitome of a shill, I doubt Greenwald or Snowden would back this particular claim if they truly believed it was false. Can I just ask you, what's the claim? I cannot watch the video at this time (I'm at work)...
I think this stuff: - The Kim Dotcom "big reveal" is out - and has almost immediately been dismissed as a fake. - The "reveal" is an email which purports to show Prime Minister John Key involved in a plan to get the internet entrepreneur into New Zealand so he could be extradited to the United States. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objecti...
It was dismissed as fake in under 2 hours of the release. Was a full and unbiased review of the claims actually done?
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#138It's interesting how many people have grown so desensitized to the content being presented that they're back to slinging mud about the credibility of the persons delivering the content. I'd say regardless of what you may think of Assange, Dot Com and Snowden personally, the presentation was excellent and raised an extremely valid critique of the state of Western surveillance. Perhaps we all need to stay on point.
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Australia is behind the times in this respect. Voting is a right, not an obligation and non-participation is a form of protest against the system as a whole rather than a forced choice between multiple options none of which you may agree with.
Did you read the parent? You don't have to vote in Australia. You just have to show up and not vote -- or alternatively accept a trivial fine. (I personally think mandatory voting is a crappy system, but less crappy than all the alternatives. Much like capitalism.)
Well, we have it in Brazil. In the last 12 years the government effectively implemented a scheme to trade votes for money using social programs. The only thing preventing this country to go the Venezuelan way is the press being a bit stronger here.
I suspect the illiterate crowd would travel to the nearest beach and spend their social programs money on beer if voting was not mandatory. That is why I want voting to be optional.
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#140Snowden is a controlled pawn, though even he might not know it. This is all too....Hollywood. Edit: Feel free to downvote as much as you like, the points don't mean anything. If it's determined later on I was right, I hope you remember this post and consider it for future events.
An account created for the sole purpose of criticizing Snowden/Greenwald/company accuses others of being a controlled pawn. Rich.