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LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Post by vonklaus »

Link to the article Snowden authored earlier today about the subject : https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/snowden-new-ze...

EDIT: The segment has ended. You can view the video by skipping to 21:54 at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbps1EwAW-0#t=427

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Post by ogijaoijfawje »

Snowden is a controlled pawn, though even he might not know it. This is all too....Hollywood.

Edit: Feel free to downvote as much as you like, the points don't mean anything. If it's determined later on I was right, I hope you remember this post and consider it for future events.

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Post by ericHosick »

Will any of this really make any difference? I feel that, in the long run, it won't.

Edit: And to further clarify my question (since I'm being down-voted for a very legitimate question)... I know a lot of smart people and none of them (as in 0 of them) seem to take any notice to these conversations. There is a lot of apathy towards mass surveillance.

Sure, the conversation comes up a lot on HN but HN is not a very good sample of the general public.

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Post by skidoo »

ogijaoijfawje wrote: post #3

Snowden is a controlled pawn, though even he might not know it. This is all too....Hollywood. Edit: Feel free to downvote as much as you like, the points don't mean anything. If it's determined later on I was right, I hope you remember this post and consider it for future events.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Post by jacquesm »

idlewords wrote: post #8

We have got to get a halfway respectable public face for this movement. These are Bond villains.

Glenn Greenwald a Bond Villain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald

I see no preference for white furry felines and plenty of journalistic awards. He's not planning to take over a military base in the pacific (or one in outer space), doesn't have a private submarine.

He probably does have some 'nation state' enemies but that's mostly their problem (that's something all three have in common).

Greenwald is as respectable as they come. Not that that stopped some from trying to use the fact that he is gay to smear him.

For instance:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/368144189411704832

The real 'Bond Villains' are on the other side of the line and unlike the Bond movies they are not in camera but off to the side somewhere or behind a curtain.

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