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Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Story behind it: AdBlock Plus is installed on an extremely large sum of devices in Germany. I read somewhere close to 25% with non-technical users (!) and 50% among technical users. What they basically did is to approach companies like newspapers (Spiegel Online) and told them: Look, if you pay $LARGE_SUM, we will whitelist you. Otherwise, since 25-50% of Germans use our software, your advertisement won't make you mu…
Not blackmail (threatening to reveal a secret, esp. to the police) but more like extortion.
This isn't blackmailing or extortion. This is what monopoly on a group of users looks like. Apple also charges 30% for anyone allowing in-app purchase on their devices. Is that also blackmail or extortion? Sure made Amazon drop in app purchases in a hurry (and yank them from comixology after Amazon purchased them)
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#133Adblock Edge, since it doesn't contain the 'paid for exemptions' (aka ads). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/ "Adblock Edge is a fork of the Adblock Plus version 2.1.2 extension for blocking advertisements on the web. This fork will provide the same features as Adblock Plus 2.X and higher but without "acceptable ads" feature. Adblock Edge was primarily branched off from Adblock Plus 2.1.2 s…
Adblock Edge is 2.1.3 (June 12, 2014) Adblock Plus is 2.6.4 (July 22, 2014) I really want to use Adblock Edge instead of just unchecking the "Allow non-instrusive advertising" option, but I somehow doubt they have still the same features.
what feature is missing from Adblock edge?
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#134Adblock is the #1 culprit for bugs on NewsBlur. I get at least one report a day where some functionality is broken (sharing stories, saving stories, loading a user's feed list, etc). First thing I do now is ask them to disable Adblock. Doesn't even matter if they've told me if they have Adblock installed. I just assume if some random functionality is broken on my single-page site, it's Adblock's fault. I suppose I sh…
As an Adblock user, I always assume that any errors on any site are the result of Adblock, and my first troubleshooting step is to turn it off. It almost always is.
I use AdBlock Plus and Disconnect Me on Chrome and my first step is to whitelist the site in Disconnect Me when it fails to work correctly.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#135Although the naming of the two projects appears to be problematic at first, I'm guessing that many users will pick the Adblock PLUS over the Adblock, simply because 'Plus' feels like a superlative.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#136He surely just forgot to mention that Google allegedly payed 25 million € to Eyeo GmbH, the company behind Adblock Plus, in order to participate in the "acceptable ads" program, a "feature" which is turned on by default and allows users to "surf more comfortably". And that he is (or at least was) one of the directors. I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing",…
I wouldn't mind unobtrusive ads to be whitelisted, were the man not charging money for the service. Ads aren't inherently "wrong". people tend to block ads because many are unsightly, bandwidth consuming, etc. Simple ads that don't have JS, don't have trackers, and blend with a site should be encouraged. But making beaucoup money on extortion payments is pretty bad.
There's no such thing as "unobtrusive ads". If they weren't obtrusive, they would be either decoration or information, not ads.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#137He surely just forgot to mention that Google allegedly payed 25 million € to Eyeo GmbH, the company behind Adblock Plus, in order to participate in the "acceptable ads" program, a "feature" which is turned on by default and allows users to "surf more comfortably". And that he is (or at least was) one of the directors. I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing",…
I wouldn't mind unobtrusive ads to be whitelisted, were the man not charging money for the service. Ads aren't inherently "wrong". people tend to block ads because many are unsightly, bandwidth consuming, etc. Simple ads that don't have JS, don't have trackers, and blend with a site should be encouraged. But making beaucoup money on extortion payments is pretty bad.
usually bandwidth, or unsightliness is not the main problem... they distract so much from the content that sometimes it can be almost impossible to differentiate the two.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#138Blocking ads is such a dick move. This should be made illegal. You are not entitled to change a website to your contempt and cut their main revenue source. If you want to use a website/app and it was made available with the Ad, then just suck it in or use a different one.
To my eyes this is not very different than piracy. Where you use a software without paying for it's price.
Advertising is the price you pay to use a service. Targeting is a technology to make that Ad as much relevant to you as possible. And yet there's a lot of negativity in here towards both. It's supposed to be a win-win-win solution for advertisers, publishers and users and yet are met with negativity and FUD.
If you are here in HN you should think the same, because advertisement is what funds the industry you are in.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#139Adblock is the #1 culprit for bugs on NewsBlur. I get at least one report a day where some functionality is broken (sharing stories, saving stories, loading a user's feed list, etc). First thing I do now is ask them to disable Adblock. Doesn't even matter if they've told me if they have Adblock installed. I just assume if some random functionality is broken on my single-page site, it's Adblock's fault. I suppose I sh…
> I suppose I should look for a way to identify if a user is using Adblock
Some sites I visit detect that I am running Adblock and ask me nicely to disable it because they rely on advertising for revenue. I'll try to post which sites do that and maybe you can work from there.
Maybe there should be an Internet Ads Protocol RFC or some HTTP header or I don't know, something anyway...
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
AdBlock Plus sold out. Google's Sponsored features continue to be automatically white-listed as part of that deal, even when "acceptable ads" is not selected. You can't block them using Element Hiding Helper. AdBlock Edge is the only true ad blocker: http://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1mcsko/adblock_edge...
I mentioned this on wladimirs blog a few hours ago and he's yet to approve my comment. I asked if he knew about it and what he though about it.
He approved it and wrote a snippy comment about how Adblock Edge is just stealing their work and introducing bugs.