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Why I won’t work for Google

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Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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> The product is the personal data Google packages up and sells to advertisers. What shit, show me how I can buy some. Show me some that someone has bought.

It's a rental.

Can you show me how can I rent that data?

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#132

Are you even serious? I read your post. Its a nice fairytale. Let me explain to you what my dad has tought me: We live under structured societies and under a specific set of rules we call LAW. (I most certainly disagree with that... but thats life and how it is) Yes under my fantasy world everyone would have the same possibilities and everyone would be happy yada yada. But under the Actual world we are living at ...…

Blame yourself? No, I'll blame the people who have more than 1/360,000,000th of a unit of political power in the country, i.e. the actual rich people and politicians who actually do these things that we hate. I will take 1/360,000,000th of the share of the blame, and nothing more.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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Yes, exactly. Any webmail service that stores email unencrypted on its servers is subject to subpoena / FISA requests, and there isn't much they can do about it. They could roll out client-side encryption -- but there's little business incentive for them to do so on free accounts. That said, as an option for paying apps users, it would be quite valuable. Automatic scanning of emails isn't ethically suspect in my opin…

What about the fact that they colluded with Apple and other companies to keep their engineer salaries as low as possible?

I'm by no means a fanboy. From what I understand the salary thing wasn't exactly a conspiracy, but it was an extremely poor policy. I don't think anybody has much to complain about in terms of the benefits package from google, though.

In terms of "big companies", their sins are relatively innocuous, and if I wanted to work in big tech they'd be #1 on my list given the technology & resources that they make available. I'd certainly never work for Apple, Facebook, Oracle or Microsoft. I'd need a lot of convincing to work for Amazon.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#134
I think it's naive to be that proud. Sure Google isn't the best company in the world as far as its policies about costumer data and privacy but if OP's mother or friends are really concerned about their privacy they can opt out and use another equivalent service to Google Search, Gmail, etc. But then again most mainstream services if not all have their own dark policies, don't they?

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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I don't know if ironic is the right word, but it certainly is funny reading the Google's cached version of the article.

And I suppose in a Google browser too, because as I expected, my Firefox doesn't know what to do with cache: URLs.

It works pretty smooth on my Firefox

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#136

I won't work for Google for a very simple reason After you went through an unsuccessful interview with them (even if it's more than 5 years ago), if you send them your CV again, it goes to /dev/null Really So, yeah, other companies are hiring... And there are good possibilities outside of the big companies, it may even be more fun and less red tape

I believe you are misinformed. Google wipes your slate clean, and you can try again in 6-12 months.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#137
I won't work for google, apple, or microsoft due to the illegal no-poaching agreements they made. I don't want to work for amazon because they are retail - engineering is overhead to be trimmed.

Through some weird twist of fate I find myself actually admiring Facebook, not the site, but the company.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#138

I won't work for Google for a very simple reason After you went through an unsuccessful interview with them (even if it's more than 5 years ago), if you send them your CV again, it goes to /dev/null Really So, yeah, other companies are hiring... And there are good possibilities outside of the big companies, it may even be more fun and less red tape

I believe you are misinformed. Google wipes your slate clean, and you can try again in 6-12 months.

Did you actually experience that or you just heard about it?

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

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Wouldn't want to work with this guy. Fair points but come on, the poor recruiter is the wrong person to rant to.

the poor recruiter is the wrong person to rant to. Why? If enough talented individuals reject a Google position (or more accurately, entry to Google's interview process) for moral reasons, the message will be sent up the chain of command. Google thrives on talent. If it becomes hard to acquire new talent, they have a serious problem.

Well, for one thing, rejecting it at the point of a recruiter reaching out to you is a weak signal. Get through the hiring process and then reject the job offer, and it will become a much stronger signal. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that way fewer people reject job offers than turn down recruiters soliciting for a phone screen.

With only a little bit of sarcasm, I would also say that accepting the job offer, working loyally for some amount of time, and then quitting in protest would be a much stronger signal still.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#140

> Google says “Don’t do evil” on one hand. They stopped saying that, so past tense should be used when mentioning it.

The informal Google motto has always been "Don't be evil.". Volumes could be written about the fine distinction between "Don't be evil." and the phrases it's often confused for, "Don't do evil." or "Do no evil.".
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