While I do feel bad for this guy's current situation (he clearly doesn't want any attention... sort of like the bitcoin Satoshi...hmm!), I really don't understand why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this story is wrong/fake/some sort of conspiracy or whatever. If there were a reasonable way to settle it for sure, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that this is the bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto. The pi…
Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement
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Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement
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How can I take you up on that bet? This is the first time I've seen reddit (since it's become a mainstream phenomenon) be more reasonable than hacker news. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... > The pieces laid out fit pretty well. What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family ? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who…
"What a shoddy piece of journalism." You base this conclusion on one line of speculation in the article? Did you miss the part where the journalist flew out, went to the person's house and spoke to them to confirm it was really him before running the story? Sounds like excellent journalism to me.
Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement
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How can I take you up on that bet? This is the first time I've seen reddit (since it's become a mainstream phenomenon) be more reasonable than hacker news. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... > The pieces laid out fit pretty well. What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family ? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who…
> How can I take you up on that bet? Might I suggest http://longbets.org/ for this? To make it legal in the US, the money ends up going to a charity of your choice, but it's a great way to put something on the record. Note: Shameless promotion for something I wrote code for.
Always thought it was a great idea, because I always make predictions and wish I could prove I did so to friends/enemies ;)
* trevor blackwell, yc founder/partner
Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement
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> didn't really say anything at all I guess we've reached the point in the argument where you've decided to go Flat Earth Society on us. For the record: "I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have any connection."
Some more records: In an exclusive two-hour interview with The Associated Press Dorian S. Nakamoto, 64, said he had never heard of Bitcoin until his son told him he had been contacted by a reporter three weeks ago. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DE...
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Some more records: In an exclusive two-hour interview with The Associated Press Dorian S. Nakamoto, 64, said he had never heard of Bitcoin until his son told him he had been contacted by a reporter three weeks ago. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DE...
I don't deny he's now saying this. That's the substantial difference: argumentum is saying he earlier "didn't really say anything at all" which is frankly baloney.
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You're conflating two different things - walking onto your property, and harassment. In general trespass to land - meaning to enter onto someone's property without a valid excuse, although the range of acceptable excuses can be very broad - is a tort, although it can also be a criminal offense in most US states. If someone refuses to leave or keeps coming back, then are of course within your rights to eject them,sue…
So, next time I want to walk across town, I am just going to put a reporter's notebook in my pocket and just skip walking on the roads. Instead I will walk across everyone's property and if the police eventually stop me, I will say I intended to interview the homeowners but changed my mind. I will occasionally walk up to people's doors and knock on them just to be plausible but since the law cannot read my mind or in…
Instead I will walk across everyone's property and if the police eventually stop me, I will say I intended to interview the homeowners but changed my mind.
For example, this might come off as a plausible argument if you walked up a few houses and then turned away, but the plausibility of your argument diminishes in inverse proportion to the number of property lines you cross without acting upon your stated purpose. You seem to think that judges live in some sort of vacuum which renders them incapable of applying common-sense standards or their own experience to the facts of a case. Now, this is arguably the case in some civil law systems - Posner offers an amusing example of a French law which made it illegal to disembark from a stationary train carriage due to a drafting error - but it's a far cry from how our common law system works or has ever worked.
Yet do it on a small scale to harass a single person and it is okay?
Here you're doing something called begging the question - you're assuming your conclusion as a fact. You consider unwanted journalistic attention to an individual to be harassment, and so you ascribe that as a purpose to the journalist. Think about it; the journalist isn't going to someone's house to make their life miserable, but in pursuit of information, which information may (or may not) be an object of legitimate interest. Finding out whether someone is the architect of a multi-billion dollar digital economy seems like an entirely legitimate subject of journalistic inquiry to me.
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Because asking a (possible) rich guy a question is a huge violation of his human rights.
No, it's perfectly legal but unethical. In the words of Lebowski: It's not wrong, it's being an asshole.
Being an asshole =/= unethical. Make a real argument that it's unethical.
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I don't think you need to be 150 to “gather information”.
I don't know what you mean.
> courts are cautious about handing them out to journalists engage din legitimate news gathering.
I doubt that it it News Worthy to be the 150th person with a TV camera standing at a recently declared news-worthy spot, or that most of those are gathering something that isn’t being recorded.
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You are attacking a retired engineer who lives a zen-like life in a suburban McMansion, after a brain accident because he can get “whatever [he] want?” Really?
I'm not attacking anyone. Argument in grandparent was he wants X so everyone needs to do X which is frankly repulsive in a country with a free press.
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IT's not trespassing to go up to someone's front door, otherwise the mail wouldn't get delivered. You can step on to the curtilage of someone's property, but you must leave if you are asked to do so - although nothing prevents you hanging around on the street in front of the property in hopes of getting an interview. If this becomes onerous, one can get a restraining order, but courts are cautious about handing them…
So, serious argument: What if you purposely did not have a mailbox on your home but at the edge of your property (like much of rural America vs suburban) and you had no obvious front-door. Would a person then be entitled to wander around your property looking for you? I would hope not. So by having a front-door you are suggesting people are allowed to just walk onto your property, up to the door, anytime they feel li…
In the UK, they sort of would. You can wander onto most private property until asked to leave, as long as you do not break anything. Only if you then refuse to leave is there any issue for a court or the police. Of course, if you just wander into someone's house and they attack you as an intruder, then you are not going to get much sympathy, however just the act of trespass is not inherently illegal. Other than in Scotland, where it gets a little more complex, on open ground I think trespass is criminal but defined as breaking camp, so walking around is still fine.