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Watchdog Report Says N.S.A. Program Is Illegal and Should End

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Re: Watchdog Report Says N.S.A. Program Is Illegal and Should End

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And what consequence should be merited for the words "Fuck off cop"?

You getting treated equally shitty in return?

I don't think the concern is that the cop might in turn tell him to fuck off.

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Very few industries are capable of as thoroughly ruining somebody's life as an abuse of power by cops--especially since they are given carte blanche to do so. We have to look at the worst-case outcomes and make our safeguards against them; anything else is inviting disaster.

There are safeguards in place unless I'm mistaken (looking at you Internal Affairs). > ruining somebody's life as an abuse of power by cops--especially since they are given carte blanche to do so. The mandate of law enforcement across the USA is to freely destroy peoples lives? Interesting...

Internal Affairs is largely hollywood fantasy. If you have trouble with a local police department and need independant help dealing with it, the best you can really do is going to the FBI.

That "best" is pretty damn shit.

Re: Watchdog Report Says N.S.A. Program Is Illegal and Should End

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With the sheer volume of laws on the books, it's a foregone conclusion that they have broken as many as a prosecutor cares to find. Although it's doubtful anyone will be imprisoned for "doing their patriotic duty."

'Although it's doubtful anyone will be imprisoned for "doing their patriotic duty."' Except Snowden, if they get their hands on him.

Yup. The double-quotes indicates the subjective nature of legitimacy. (It sucks when decision-makers fail to grasp that legitimacy isn't objective.)
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