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Re: A/I shuts down

#132
post #103

Here is the State Department's rationale: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

Basically, far right extremists targeting antifascists through mechanisms of political repression while having the gall to call themselves pro free speech.

Why is this downvoted? The regime has openly declared that anti-fascist beliefs are now cause for surveillance, censorship, and persecution.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-commo...

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#133
post #123

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Let me fix that for you. Lots of maga are idealists (even if their ideas are not based in the real world), a number of them are LARPers and a small number are hard core intent on eliminating “the enemy”. To think that no maga member is violent and entertains violent options, is denying reality. Also it’s disingenuous to think they are all out of their minds looking to overthrow the government. Many just have ideals t…

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> That violent criminals were pardoned doesn’t change the fact

It pretty explicitly changes that fact. Inb4 ehrm actually, we all know bro.

Re: A/I shuts down

#134
post #127

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Bold of you to assume we have any say...

Yet we did, indirectly.

Indirectly is doing a lot of work there. The US is an extremely disenfranchised place, and the choices are both pro-capital and will never actually represent the people in any meaningful sense. This liberal individualism framing only serves to bolster nationalism and divide groups when what we really need to be doing is recognizing our shared goals, with "we" being the international "we", and figure out who our enemies really are.

Re: A/I shuts down

#135
post #54

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This does not show what they (A/I) did. The only concrete examples are of bad behavior by some users. Then there’s a bunch of generic claims against A/I, with NO specifics. So, yeah, it might be true. But I find no concrete examples of what bad stuff A/I themselves did, just their users. Personally, I would like for there to be at least SOME concrete examples. Like, “This convicted terrorist had a blog on their infra…

The problem is that, as A/I themselves explained ( https://www.inventati.org/who/collective ), they worked hard to ensure that they do not possess any evidence of or data about who is using their infrastructure.

autistici.org said the opposite:

https://web.archive.org/web/20260826145332/https://www.autis...

"We provide our services strictly for non-commercial use, in order to provide support exclusively to individuals or groups we feel we have an affinity with. In order to verify the existence of these pre-conditions, each and every service request is processed manually by one of our volunteers and is in a dialogical form. All requests are anonymized and will be destroyed."

Anonymized how? Before the first contact? After the conversation?

If anyone here wants to set up a similar service: This is patently stupid for an ISP to attempt.

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#136
post #49

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Could someone point me to some background on this whole incident or write a quick one? I don't know who they are or what's going on but it seems important.

also for context this is a shorter version and represents well the situation https://www.inventati.org/who/collective "After 2005 we have been constantly pestered by prosecutors and security forces (and even by the Vatican! [4]) asking us to hand over users’ data and identities and we are proud to say we were always able to answer: we are sorry, but we do not have them." This is tech guys supporting with infra real f…

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Re: A/I shuts down

#137
post #14

I hereby designate the US government an international terrorist organization.

If that's what you characterize the US government as, I can only imagine what you characterize some of the other governments around the world. Particularly, from the millions of us who migrated to the US legally and willfully and who are very VERY grateful to this country for providing the opportunities people like myself could only dream-of in our former countries.

If you don't see an issue with the White House constantly posting straight up Nazi memes then that's on you. There's also plenty immigrants in Europe who vote for fascists, so? Turns out you can't just leave your "former" country behind like an old coat, it's still your upbringing and horizon. You are grateful "to the country", but what does that mean while also shrugging off what the people in "the country" are saying? What is left of "the country"? A bunch of papers, rights and money, opportunities for you; let the goons roam and fill their warehouses, keep children, even infants in despicable conditions, because you (think you) have nothing to fear?

Re: A/I shuts down

#138
post #110

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... But also, there's no organization called antifa, and no antifa members. It's an accusation levied against people the right wing wants to call terrorists.

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People sharing similar values does not make them an organization. “Why do they wear masks?” because they don’t want nazis to interfere with their jobs, friends and families? You’re asking questions there are very obvious answers to. Seems like a disingenuous comment or you’re unable to do the most basic research

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#139

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From the state department link above: > Oregon-based Rose City Antifa has relied on A/I Collective tools and services to organize and incite violent and criminal acts domestically, including an attack on Customs and Border Patrol helicopters that led to a federal indictment. Rose City Antifa also used A/I Collective tools and services to disseminate doxing lists and release illegally obtained personal information of…

That's a bunch of unproven allegations from an administration with a history of lies; have you got anything more concrete?

Re: A/I shuts down

#140

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> A/I knowingly provided services to groups that verifiably did some rather violent things they are accused of If that's disqualifying, a lot of US government contractors are in trouble.

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> There are very logical reasons why the state wielding force and violence is preferable to the alternatives…

Seems like there are some pretty clear historical exceptions to this rule.

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