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Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by WalterBright »

ceejayoz wrote: post #120
estearum wrote: post #118

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Months after he apologized for the initial false "pedo" claim, Musk claimed in an email to Buzzfeed that Unsworth (the rescue diver) was "a child rapist" who "moved to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was 12 years old at the time." Musk hired a private investigator to confirm the pedophile allegations (which failed, of course). Try again kiddo. Absolutely pathetic. Defending this shit is a moral failure for you too.

Cite: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45418245 > Writing in an email to Buzzfeed reporter Ryan Mac, Mr Musk went further. He told the reporter to "call people you know in Thailand, find out what's actually going on and stop defending child rapists". > He alleged that Mr Unsworth, 63, had spent decades visiting and living in Thailand and had recently moved to Chiang Rai in northern Thailand "for a child bride…

That would qualify as libel, and I don't defend libel.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by modeless »

testing22321 wrote: post #112
modeless wrote: post #14

Successful Raptor on-orbit relight demo! That should clear the next flight to go to orbit and deploy operational satellites! Big milestone for the program. And the ship landing was so soft it didn't even explode! That's never happened before. And it's still connected to Starlink too. The ship's cameras are still working underwater! I wonder if they will be able to recover it intact? We're getting some great views of…

> None of the heat shields so far looked reusable without refurbishment, including this one. What about this one looks not reusable without refurbishment? To my eye it’s by far the best we’ve seen, no burn through on flaps, etc

Lots of missing tiles still. Best case is it's all infant mortality and replacing just those tiles will result in a durable heat shield for many more flights. Worst case is every flight loses that many tiles and the ablative underneath can't be reflown until replacement.

I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a heat shield refurbishment attachment to the launch tower that allows technicians to access the side of the ship to patch up between flights without leaving the pad. They're going to need some kind of solution for the many back-to-back HLS refueling flights.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by estearum »

BurningFrog wrote: post #130
atq2119 wrote: post #65

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Such highly-public but deniable signals of support are actually a very, very common tactic of extremist movements.

But at the end of the day you know what you saw. Reflects very poorly.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by staplung »

laughing_man wrote: post #121
smallmancontrov wrote: post #92

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Speaking of which, are there any fan theories on why the boosters seem to have persistent issues? Or is the plumbing still churning fast enough that we keep seeing N=1 issues for successive designs?

The leading theory, from what I can tell, is slosh. The flip on separation is relatively violent, and while there's not much fuel left compared to the amount at launch, it's still heavy enough to do damage.

The cast I was watching said that during the flip and boost-back the booster is pulling 11 Gs. That's a pretty hard hitting water-hammer for sure.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by smallmancontrov »

staplung wrote: post #134
laughing_man wrote: post #121

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The leading theory, from what I can tell, is slosh. The flip on separation is relatively violent, and while there's not much fuel left compared to the amount at launch, it's still heavy enough to do damage.

The cast I was watching said that during the flip and boost-back the booster is pulling 11 Gs. That's a pretty hard hitting water-hammer for sure.

Oof, yeah, one good slosh at 11G is probably all it takes. On the bright side, there is probably a trajectory that works and I wish them luck in finding it!

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by ceejayoz »

WalterBright wrote: post #129
ceejayoz wrote: post #117

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> Musk has said it was a common insult among schoolboys in S Africa. Consider that maybe "derogatory things wealthy white South Africans say about people in the apartheid era" is not a great standard to live up to.

I never said it was. It also has nothing to do with apartheid.

A white kid growing up in the 80s in South Africa has nothing to do with apartheid?

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by ceejayoz »

WalterBright wrote: post #131
ceejayoz wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cite: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45418245 > Writing in an email to Buzzfeed reporter Ryan Mac, Mr Musk went further. He told the reporter to "call people you know in Thailand, find out what's actually going on and stop defending child rapists". > He alleged that Mr Unsworth, 63, had spent decades visiting and living in Thailand and had recently moved to Chiang Rai in northern Thailand "for a child bride…

That would qualify as libel, and I don't defend libel.

Yet here you are, doing it.

Reminder:

> "pedo boy" sounds like an insult, not a charge... This is evident from you changing his word from "pedo boy" to "pedophile".

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by ceejayoz »

modeless wrote: post #132
testing22321 wrote: post #112

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> None of the heat shields so far looked reusable without refurbishment, including this one. What about this one looks not reusable without refurbishment? To my eye it’s by far the best we’ve seen, no burn through on flaps, etc

Lots of missing tiles still. Best case is it's all infant mortality and replacing just those tiles will result in a durable heat shield for many more flights. Worst case is every flight loses that many tiles and the ablative underneath can't be reflown until replacement. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a heat shield refurbishment attachment to the launch tower that allows technicians to access the side of…

They've intentionally flown a number of times with missing heat tiles in sensitive spots, and many of those don't have the ablative coating. One of the benefits of steel over aluminium.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by testing22321 »

modeless wrote: post #132
testing22321 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> None of the heat shields so far looked reusable without refurbishment, including this one. What about this one looks not reusable without refurbishment? To my eye it’s by far the best we’ve seen, no burn through on flaps, etc

Lots of missing tiles still. Best case is it's all infant mortality and replacing just those tiles will result in a durable heat shield for many more flights. Worst case is every flight loses that many tiles and the ablative underneath can't be reflown until replacement. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a heat shield refurbishment attachment to the launch tower that allows technicians to access the side of…

Musk tweet:

“We got all the heat shield data we needed and then some! ”

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2080812297694409014

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by smallmancontrov »

BurningFrog wrote: post #130
atq2119 wrote: post #65

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I can: thinking that a far-right industrialist at a far-right victory celebration making a far-right hand gesture, with perfect form, in duplicate, didn't mean it.
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