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SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by laughing_man »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #92
staplung wrote: post #74

Summary: almost, but not quite entirely successful. Launch successful. Booster separation and boost back burn looked good. Booster failed to relight some of its engines and hit the water hard. Successfully deployed the 20 starlink satellites. Successfully reignited an engine in flight to prove potential for de-orbit burn on future flight. Re-entry looked good and less spicy that some previous attempts (subjective). S…

Speaking of which, are there any fan theories on why the boosters seem to have persistent issues? Or is the plumbing still churning fast enough that we keep seeing N=1 issues for successive designs?

The leading theory, from what I can tell, is slosh. The flip on separation is relatively violent, and while there's not much fuel left compared to the amount at launch, it's still heavy enough to do damage.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by pstuart »

qwerpy wrote: post #114
appplication wrote: post #19

It’s interesting the cognitive dissonance this brings out in me. As much as I think Musk carries a fairly reprehensible aura, I would still like to see SpaceX succeed. Space has a funny, transcendent way of inspiring us.

I’m glad that of all places, HN is still able to grudgingly put aside red/blue team sports to appreciate really cool science and engineering.

Agreed. Separating those thoughts are valuable here and in life in general.

But like a lot of tech, the cool shit can have serious negative effects as well and it's important to be able to, again, acknowledge both appropriately.

The success of SpaceX has made him the richest man on the planet, and his money makes him dangerous.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by laughing_man »

fsloth wrote: post #11

Whoa the acceleration from the start surprised me. It’s huge and it just … zipped off the pad like a bullet (ok not real bullet but still).

Felix on the "what about it" YouTube channel says flight 14 will be even faster. That's going to be something to see.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by qarl2 »

adastra22 wrote: post #78
qarl2 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're conflating politics and ethics.

Von Braun used the Nazi war machine to make his rockets. Musk ran DOGE. They’re both political figures by their own choices.

The important factor isn't politics. It's ethics. Saying it's about politics is obfuscation.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by muwtyhg »

WalterBright wrote: post #93
atq2119 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If he meant it to be a nazi salute, why did he do it in conjunction with saying "I give my heart to you"? Currently on TV is a WW2 documentary narrated by Tom Hanks. It's pretty good, with significant coverage of nazis. I recommend watching it. I'm a bit of a history wonk, and have read extensively about WW2. I'm afraid I don't see any parallels between the nazis and Musk.

And responding to the backlash by posting Nazi-related puns seems like a bad way of clearing your name or trying to distance yourself from the accusation.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by cadamsdotcom »

maxlin wrote: post #30
modeless wrote: post #14

Successful Raptor on-orbit relight demo! That should clear the next flight to go to orbit and deploy operational satellites! Big milestone for the program. And the ship landing was so soft it didn't even explode! That's never happened before. And it's still connected to Starlink too. The ship's cameras are still working underwater! I wonder if they will be able to recover it intact? We're getting some great views of…

My brain refuses to resolve the effect of it as anything but CGI. Event though it isn't.

I mean, folks who make CGI better watch these too or they're not doing their jobs.

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Post by WalterBright »

estearum wrote: post #118
WalterBright wrote: post #109

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Months after he apologized for the initial false "pedo" claim, Musk claimed in an email to Buzzfeed that Unsworth (the rescue diver) was "a child rapist" who "moved to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was 12 years old at the time." Musk hired a private investigator to confirm the pedophile allegations (which failed, of course). Try again kiddo. Absolutely pathetic. Defending this shit is a moral failure for you too.

Musk did hire the private investigator after the rescue worker sued him for $195 million. I agree Musk shouldn't have done that despite being angry about being sued.

Musk won the lawsuit.

Musk also publicly apologized.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by estearum »

WalterBright wrote: post #127
estearum wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Months after he apologized for the initial false "pedo" claim, Musk claimed in an email to Buzzfeed that Unsworth (the rescue diver) was "a child rapist" who "moved to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was 12 years old at the time." Musk hired a private investigator to confirm the pedophile allegations (which failed, of course). Try again kiddo. Absolutely pathetic. Defending this shit is a moral failure for you too.

Musk did hire the private investigator after the rescue worker sued him for $195 million. I agree Musk shouldn't have done that despite being angry about being sued. Musk won the lawsuit. Musk also publicly apologized.

And after Musk publicly apologized, he sent an email to Buzzfeed accusing the rescuer of being a child rapist and moving to Thailand to take a 12 year old bride.

Please continue your defense.

Re: SpaceX Starship Flight 13 livestream [video]

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Post by WalterBright »

ceejayoz wrote: post #117
WalterBright wrote: post #109

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> Musk has said it was a common insult among schoolboys in S Africa. Consider that maybe "derogatory things wealthy white South Africans say about people in the apartheid era" is not a great standard to live up to.

I never said it was. It also has nothing to do with apartheid.
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