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Re: Squillions: How money laundering won

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I use a credit card that I pay off in full every month and I get 2% cash back paid for by interest other users pay.

Don't you pay 3% of every purchase to your credit card?

Most of the time it’s the other way around, at least in the US: because cash and credit card prices are almost always the same it is the cash users who are overpaying, to the tune of 2-3% of the purchase price. It makes no sense to use cash.

Re: Squillions: How money laundering won

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> You can't get any high value notes there, they just don't exist Yes, although this is mostly by capping the highest regularly circulating note at £50 after the war and then waiting for inflation. > And there's so much street crime, [mostly false] > and the police care so little about burglary, Sadly true (including "find my iPhone" reports; there was a joke during the Mandelson scandal that this was the one time th…

>>Sadly true (including "find my iPhone" reports I'll give you one better. I know someone who had their nearly new Range Rover stolen in Manchester - reported to the police etc. Few days later, they found it parked at a car park near a big supermarket. Rang the police, they said well, if you still have the keys...just take it? And he was like hang on, you don't want to look at it, check for drugs, take fingerprints,…

I've heard that this is quite common. The criminals drive the car a short distance and leave it for a few days to check if it has a hidden tracker. If the vehicle isn't recovered they assume it is clean.

Re: Squillions: How money laundering won

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> I haven’t even mentioned gold, which is used all the time in criminal transactions, let alone cryptocurrency, the single biggest recent innovation in money laundering.

Curious how that line is received within the HN crowd.

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I guess I don't really understand it. I understand how a bank robbery leads to dirty money - the bank has the serial numbers. In what way is money from selling drugs "dirty"? Why does it even need laundering?

Criminals are not afraid of the police but afraid of the IRS. Smuggling and selling prohibited goods is super easy, but then you suddenly have a shitload of cash but everybody knows you as an unemployed bum without career, and they would report you to authorities if they see you in a supercar. They need a cover story and career that allows them to "earn" money without raising any suspicion. As the other commenter sai…

Breaking Bad was another show that addressed some of the issues with Walt buying a car wash as a way to try to launder the drug money although the problem was that there was too much money (thus the 55-gallon drums of cash buried in the desert).

Re: Squillions: How money laundering won

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It used to be super common for many small businesses to be cash only or a 10% discount for cash. Likely the main driver for this was tax avoidance. I haven't seen a cash only business since covid. With a dwindling number of legitimate cash users, any business that is pulling in huge sums of cash well beyond the average is going to look increasingly suspicious.

> I haven't seen a cash only business since covid Collectibles (e.g. trading cards) are still a "cash is king" market. Some dealer only take cash, virtually all of them prefer it, and offer steep "discounts" (lack of markup) for cash.

Probably a lot of chargebacks from kids using their parent's credit card and the like.

Re: Squillions: How money laundering won

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Here's an anecdotal thought: AML laws surprisingly work well to discourage offline transactions by tax-paying citizens, helping maximize tax reporting and improve tax collection. As a result, governments continue to strengthen and expand laws in that direction.

It used to be super common for many small businesses to be cash only or a 10% discount for cash. Likely the main driver for this was tax avoidance. I haven't seen a cash only business since covid. With a dwindling number of legitimate cash users, any business that is pulling in huge sums of cash well beyond the average is going to look increasingly suspicious.

It varies on the country. In Mexico, it’s not uncommon for landlords to want rent paid in cash (which can be a challenge in that one has to safely transfer tens of thousands of pesos from the bank to the landlord on a regular basis in a country with high crime rates), although the numbers of cash-only businesses in Mexico has been declining. On the other hand, the main thing I use cash for in the US is to get quarters for the laundry machines in my apartment basement.

Re: Squillions: How money laundering won

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post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use a credit card that I pay off in full every month and I get 2% cash back paid for by interest other users pay.

Don't you pay 3% of every purchase to your credit card?

No, the merchant pays, although recently more and more have been handing off the 3% to the consumer by giving a lower cash price. But well, most people don't have cash so that's essentially a convenience fee.
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