I just wish there was a MiMo REAP gguf that was reduced enough to fit within RAM of computers of mere mortals
Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%
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#132The industry seems to be moving from "best model wins" toward "good enough model at lowest cost wins."
It is a combination of 3 things
1. Some companies are very good in training and serving at much lower cost
2. Some companies have access to new much cheaper hardware
3. People have realzeid that you dont need a 3.2T model when a 310B one (Opus vs MiMo 2.5) performs equally well for your particular task.
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#133as someone from the 3rd world - this is pleasant - even 3rd world countries will have affordable "A.I" access via Chinese models. as someone who now lives & has lived in the west for the majority of their adult life - yeah the US western models r fucked n the crazy valuations of the A.I labs - which also filters down to the economy - since all money instead of being put to productive use is being wasted on this shit.…
>>as someone from the 3rd world - this is pleasant - even 3rd world countries will have affordable "A.I" I stopped tagging my country as developing and then third world and call it for what it is, a POOR country. I know with increasing certainty that my country will be poor for the rest of my life. I also expect AI to be as available as computers: there are the "have", and there are the "don't have", which is almost…
I will adopt your take. it's precise.
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#134How realistic is this: Chinese models incidentally slurps up some terms that lead them to finding unflattering words that you wrote about the CCP in a random journal entry, or maybe a social media csv export. You go to China one day and are denied entry due to what you said. Realistic or no? (yes i know the us is getting bad in re. to what you write online as well) Models hosted in China are a siren call that I don't…
China knows tourists are not Chinese; that's why when you visit China your non-Chinese SIM card silently bypasses the Great Firewall when you use roaming data.
Besides, the Chinese government doesn't really care about individual criticisms, even in public, especially in languages other than Chinese. What they really care about censoring is attempts to organize collective action. They don't care about personal opinions stated in the blog posts of tourists, let alone diary entries.
I really like the US model of free speech, at it's best. It feels natural and right to me. It would be cool if Chinese people had stronger freedom of political speech— I'd love to hear Chinese people publicly share their thoughts online without restraint or censorship; it's a huge country with a lot of smart people with diverse opinions.
But maybe you should go visit China sooner rather than later, tbf. It's friendlier and weirder and more interesting than you think, including w/r/t the censorship regime.
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#135Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well not just that, OpenAI explicitly blocks them
Blocks Chinese users or blocks VPNs? Are they the only one?
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/supported-countries
You can check for yourself here to see that China and Hong Kong are conveniently missing. We do see blocking from Anthropic and Gemini as well in some regions
Also even though Vietnam and the Philippines are technically supported we do see blocking from some IP addresses in those regions too
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#137Looks like this is basically to mostly match (or slightly undercut, in the case of MiMo-v2.5-Pro) DeepSeek's pricing for DSV4-Pro and DSV4-Flash.
This seems great! Between just these two providers, this is a couple pairs of models that seem suitable for replacing Claude Sonnet and Claude Haiku, at around 1/20th the price.
It's a bummer for me that nothing can match at least Opus 4.6 or GPT-5.5 yet, since I'd characterize those as the first models to actually be good enough to be useful for writing code, at least in my experience at work.
But for simple stuff, or situations where you can have the huge model dispatch to subagents or just "advise" or "supervise" smaller agents on their work, this looks great. Wherever the frontier models end up in a year, if there are open-weight contenders like this around GPT-5.5's level by then, I think I can be happy and productive doing most prototyping with those models and hand-editing for quality or more serious work.
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#138Hot take: The reason this is happening is because the market for Chinese AI models hosted by Chinese companies is struggling. Even the market for Chinese AI models hosted by western companies is soft: During the week of May 18, OpenRouter processed 3.4T DeepSeek v3 Flash tokens (their most popular model). Google has announced that Gemini is processing 746T per week; Claude is probably processing more. And the Chinese…
Why are you using Openrouter as metric here? Most people use the APIs directly.
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why?
USA is as censored as what we believe about China. You will get cancelled by Americans if you use "communist" stuff. That is why hardly any Chinese EVs in USA. Because it is communists stuff. The odd thing is iphone is made in China. So it is more of selective enforcement when convenience. Chinese AI even self host means your will influence by communism. You want McCarthy era back again?
Massive overgeneralization and hyperbole.
You're referring to a very small subset of the American population. It's ironic because you seem to be claiming Americans are closed-minded here but I think that may actually describe your mindset as well.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
> US AI companies have no chance of recouping even fraction of their valuations. A big caveat here is that many US companies (particularly in sensitive industries, like defense) will likely not want to (or not be allowed to) use Chinese models for anything of substance.
What about self host Chinese models?
Definitely more leeway there IMO. But the optics aren't ideal as someone mentioned. And unfortunately, optics is more important than it should be sometimes.