As a photographer I say "down with this sort of thing"
Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
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Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#132Why? Don’t do this. Society is built on an implicit assumption of trust. You will erode the foundation that enables any success you might have in the short term.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Simple, don't trust what you see on the internet, which has been a constant since the mid 90's when it was invented.
When that idea was originated, the advice was more like: "Don't trust what you see on the Internet. Trust instead what you read in a reputable daily newspaper, or Peter Jennings or Tom Brokaw on the nightly news, or BBC World News." Today, the Internet, especially the part which is not trustable, has nearly finished killing most of the "trustworthy" news sources, by outcompeting them for ad dollars - by being way bet…
Growing up I was told the newspaper is only good for reading the time.
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#134Why? Don’t do this. Society is built on an implicit assumption of trust. You will erode the foundation that enables any success you might have in the short term.
How is a hidden watermark that only police and providers can read better than a hidden watermark that the people can also read if they go out of their way to setup some project like this? Also your argument makes zero sense because bad guys will do this anyway. At least there's also an open source project for normal people, and it's interesting from a stenography standpoint.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
They won the long game. Everything is rented and DRM now. Very little of what most people buy digitally is truly owned.
they didn't win by attacking piracy head-on though, they made capitulation easy & nice enough for us to happily go along.
They did a bit of everything: attacking head-on, lobbying, providing alternatives. And eventually, it worked.
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#136Good. Better than only known bad actors doing this with the public wrongly believing watermarks are reliable.
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#137Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#138Why? Don’t do this. Society is built on an implicit assumption of trust. You will erode the foundation that enables any success you might have in the short term.
Information is default low-trust unless you have reason to extend trust to the source and that's been the case for thousands of years, if not the entirety of human existence.
We now have the tools to increase trust in specific information, for example: by signing images that need high trust for things like news reporting using camera hardware root of trust with time and geo stamping. If signatures are removed, that's back to a default low-trust state.
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#139Why? Don’t do this. Society is built on an implicit assumption of trust. You will erode the foundation that enables any success you might have in the short term.
IMHO you cannot base your trust on something that is so easy to work around.
Trust should be between people, not a person and some data.
So showing how easy to generate "false" data, this makes it more obvious for people focus on other people. Trusting people makes life much easier in my experience, while focusing on data, again in my experience, is a game of cat and mouse.
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#140Regardless of one's opinion about this particular project, it seems obvious to me that the path forward is proving authenticity of non-AI resources rather than attempting to watermark all the AI-generated ones.
> proving authenticity of non-AI resources
You’re trying to prove a negative.