Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stalin had no issues photoshopping images almost 100 years ago.
Stalin had all the resources imaginables at his disposal. Now Nancy, a tech-phobic waitress who has a grudge against her coworker can make up an entire scenario with one prompt and her colleagues might blindly believe her. Let's not pretend they're the same thing. Gen AI is inevitable. Watermarking is likely futile. But in my opinion it is still very important to discuss how, as a society, we're going to live in a po…
Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
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Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stalin had no issues photoshopping images almost 100 years ago.
A good example why fake images are bad. Do you want to make it easier for the next Stalin?
In reality, all images will cease to be trustworthy and there's nothing that can be done about this.
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stalin had no issues photoshopping images almost 100 years ago.
Stalin had all the resources imaginables at his disposal. Now Nancy, a tech-phobic waitress who has a grudge against her coworker can make up an entire scenario with one prompt and her colleagues might blindly believe her. Let's not pretend they're the same thing. Gen AI is inevitable. Watermarking is likely futile. But in my opinion it is still very important to discuss how, as a society, we're going to live in a po…
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#44There's an underappreciated comment in the other thread about SynthID and OpenAI [0] that captures what (IMO) the hacker ethos on this should be. We care about privacy, we should not accept tools that barcode our every digital move. (note that the counter of "well, they don't do that yet " is not particularly convincing) [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48200060
Do we care about truth? Without truth freedom and privacy are endangered too. The other comment talks about laws that can already handle that. How if images, video and audio aren’t reliable proof anymore?
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#45There's an underappreciated comment in the other thread about SynthID and OpenAI [0] that captures what (IMO) the hacker ethos on this should be. We care about privacy, we should not accept tools that barcode our every digital move. (note that the counter of "well, they don't do that yet " is not particularly convincing) [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48200060
Do we care about truth? Without truth freedom and privacy are endangered too. The other comment talks about laws that can already handle that. How if images, video and audio aren’t reliable proof anymore?
Also note that people have been falling for obviously watermarked videos already.
And even if they weren't, wouldn't that just make them more gullible towards non-watermarked models?
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#46Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#47There's an underappreciated comment in the other thread about SynthID and OpenAI [0] that captures what (IMO) the hacker ethos on this should be. We care about privacy, we should not accept tools that barcode our every digital move. (note that the counter of "well, they don't do that yet " is not particularly convincing) [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48200060
Do we care about truth? Without truth freedom and privacy are endangered too. The other comment talks about laws that can already handle that. How if images, video and audio aren’t reliable proof anymore?
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stalin had no issues photoshopping images almost 100 years ago.
Stalin had all the resources imaginables at his disposal. Now Nancy, a tech-phobic waitress who has a grudge against her coworker can make up an entire scenario with one prompt and her colleagues might blindly believe her. Let's not pretend they're the same thing. Gen AI is inevitable. Watermarking is likely futile. But in my opinion it is still very important to discuss how, as a society, we're going to live in a po…
AI kind of makes this worse, but also only barely. Because most people really ought to know by now that almost any content could be AI, a video of, say, Trump kicking a baby or violating a goat wouldn't convince anyone that those acts happened (unless they already believed they happened).
Thing is, we're so flooded in biased BS, and no one has any incentive to produce non-sensational, factual news. I absolutely see 'post-truth' as the inevitability. You can't "weed a garden" when it is 100% weeds. The term "news" will cease to mean facts, and just become a branch of entertainment. Kind of the way "Reality TV" went from being supposedly a documentary (e.g. COPS) to just being a flavor of entertainment, where nothing needs to be real.
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#49There's an underappreciated comment in the other thread about SynthID and OpenAI [0] that captures what (IMO) the hacker ethos on this should be. We care about privacy, we should not accept tools that barcode our every digital move. (note that the counter of "well, they don't do that yet " is not particularly convincing) [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48200060
Do we care about truth? Without truth freedom and privacy are endangered too. The other comment talks about laws that can already handle that. How if images, video and audio aren’t reliable proof anymore?
Re: Remove-AI-Watermarks – CLI and library for removing AI watermarks from images
#50Regardless of one's opinion about this particular project, it seems obvious to me that the path forward is proving authenticity of non-AI resources rather than attempting to watermark all the AI-generated ones.
Pretty hard problem to tackle when you can point an "authenticated" camera at a really nice screen and snap a 'definitely real' photo of anything a screen can display :(