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Meta Shuts Down End-to-End Encryption for Instagram Messaging
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do people expect that Instagram can't read their Instagram private messages? I don't think people expect that. And E2EE is not nearly as cheap as the HN crowd likes to pretend—how do those devices get those keys if not through a central service? Especially if one of them is a web browser?
>Do people expect that Instagram can't read their Instagram private messages? I don't think people expect that. A deeper question is why we reached a point where people can't reasonably expect their communication to not be spied on.
were like 20 years past that, at the very least 10 years with Snowden.
The people have spoken, caring about your communications not being spied on puts you in the minority. I mean like, just look at social media. You have tons of people who not only don't care about being spied on, they actively document everything for more views.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you know what Zuckerberg said in an interview? I think it was to Lex Fridman but I could be wrong "Apple hasn't come up with anything new in 20 years" Very likely in response to Apple's granularity. Poor Zuck can't steal people's credentials
Not a fan of zack (quite the opposite), but he isn't wrong here. Apple indeed didn't come up with anything new. Their PR stunts each year are more and more laughable as time goes by. Neither did Meta, but that's a different discussion
The iPhone and Apple Watch don't count in your book? They are both younger than 20 years. I think the iPhone changed the mobile market. I don't think it was for the better but it was 'new'. It might also be just where I live but I see more Apple Watches than any other digital watches. Maybe not as 'new' but they certainly changed the watch market as well, for better or worse.
I can't think of a single new thing Facebook did in 20 years that stuck. Metaverse?
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#134Put simply: I’ve talked to Apple engineers. Siri fell behind due to how good Apple’s privacy is. Everyone made fun of them for protecting them. This is exactly the opposite of that, where Mark is throwing you and your children under the bus again because he’s unoriginal and doesn’t know how to make money any other way than by getting all up in your business, statistically.
> Siri fell behind due to how good Apple’s privacy is.
That makes zero sense.
The problem with Siri is... Siri. The interface itself.
Zero of my complaints around Siri have to do with it not being able to access my private data.
They're entirely about it not understanding my request in the first place or lacking a basic capability.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m less impressed with Zuck every time I hear something new about him. Apple has made incredible progress in the last 20 years, but almost none of that has been a brand new product. It has all been evolving the existing products and on building the world’s best supply chain and rearing incredible market share from Windows. To be clear, AirPods are a much bigger market than Nike shoes. Those, plus Apple Watch, iPad a…
Anything groundbreaking in advertising? Meta ad tools are pretty granular. (Looking for anything here!)
Profiting off of a genocide is a first in the social media world, pretty ground breaking. Especially when you find out that workers and management knew about it as it was on-going but did nothing in response. Truly such innovative people, surely they deserve all the money and non of the responsibility. It is a meritocracy after all.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. "You have to unlock your iphone first" is such a hindrance to using Siri for anything more than setting timers and alarms. If you're doing anything that involves gloves or a mask or getting your hands messy, like in a kitchen or something, it is just so frustrating. How about making a toggle so I can choose to be slightly less locked down for Siri, and I take full responsibility if I get hacked because of it.
Settings > Apple Intelligence & Siri > Allow Siri When Locked
If only that worked!
Explicitly: I have that turned on and I still need to unlock before using.
Re: Meta Shuts Down End-to-End Encryption for Instagram Messaging
#137It's too bad we fell so hard for centralization. In an alternate universe, messaging on the Internet could have been: 1. Alice's device has a publicly routable IP address with a domain name like alice.home.her.isp 2. Bob's device is has same qualities, using: bob.mobile.his.isp Then Alice can just open her chat app up, add bob@bob.mobile.his.isp and off they go. I mean we had UNIX's "talk" for how long but instead of…
> In an alternate universe, messaging on the Internet could have been: I don't think so, and I think the very reason is because the people who opt for these decentralized solutions never really sit down and try and design a product , they just want decentralization for the sake of decentralization. For them decentralization is the product. Your alternate universe evaporates when you ask the question "what happens if…
The issue with email is that too little is specified, and is instead just left up to providers and clients.
This specification vacuum forces centralization because the only way to build essential usability features is to own both the mail server and the mail client.
If email had evolved to move with the times such that basic QoL features were part of the spec rather than proprietary extensions, then it could have stayed decenteralized.
Contrast with what happened on the web. Yes it's imperfect but there is a standard that evolves to move with the times and there are multiple implementations of that standard.
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#139People here like it, but end-to-end encryption is an objectively worse user experience for people that don't care about that feature
How is it "objectively worse"?
Main thing that comes to mind is things like this:
- If you lose you phone you lose your messages
- If you forget your password you lose your messages
- If you switch phone you often lose messages
- If you get added to a group you can't see the previous messages
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is it "objectively worse"?
Main thing that comes to mind is things like this: - If you lose you phone you lose your messages - If you forget your password you lose your messages - If you switch phone you often lose messages - If you get added to a group you can't see the previous messages
> - If you forget your password you lose your messages
This shouldn't be the case right? As password isn't related to the key messages are encrypted with.