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Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Why? People are currently free to release all intellectual rights to what they release, so in theory these is already a intellectual property right free marketplace and people that want to create under that model creating.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Copying intellectual property is not piracy. This term was co-opted by big industries to insure the cash cattle continue to pay. Piracy has a very specific sting to it. This was a deliberate choice. We don't call burglary "piracy", yet if we relax the definition enough to include IP theft, it is also piracy. GabeN also had the wrong take in that it's a "supply problem" or whatever nonsense he said. GabeN is in fact a…

I never understand these positions. How do authors make money selling books if someone can legally copy it and give it out for free?

Commissions, grants, advertisements, sponsorships, donations, teaching... There's already an enormous ecosystem of artists and authors who work outside of the copyright realm (blog writers, substackers, social media artists, youtube creators, soundcloud rappers) and who make money enough to pursue their passion and whose business model would be totally unchanged if copyright were abolished entirely tomorrow. When their work is downloaded or shared or copied or linked or edited or remixed they appreciate it and see it as a multiplication of their artistic impact.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Immediately makes me think of the vitriol here on HN for the UK trying to enforce their age verification law outside their borders. Will the principle stand, or will it reveal that "USA is always right" is a common held belief

Copying intellectual property is not piracy. This term was co-opted by big industries to insure the cash cattle continue to pay. Piracy has a very specific sting to it. This was a deliberate choice. We don't call burglary "piracy", yet if we relax the definition enough to include IP theft, it is also piracy. GabeN also had the wrong take in that it's a "supply problem" or whatever nonsense he said. GabeN is in fact a…

> If I walked into a house, took a necklace, and left an exact unaltered copy I'd at best be charged with a lesser crime that didn't include theft

Idk what law books you've been reading but this isn't true.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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> Years ago, worked at Walmart. They illegally edited my hours and thieved $100 and change. Put in police report, was told "CIVIL MATTER" Too late now, but for future reference for others: Wage theft reports should go to your state's department of labor. Every state is different but from what I've seen these offices have people who are hungry to catch real wage claims. Companies listen up when the state department of…

used to be the case before the government was gutted.

This is under state jurisdiction, not federal.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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post #76

Spotify was also forced to remove 60 or so endpoints from their API: https://developer.spotify.com/documentation/web-api/referenc... ...and add a bunch of other restrictions like limiting API access to premium users, ludicrously increasing the cap for acceptance into the extended quota programme (250k MAU), and so on and so on. So the most fucked in this situation are neither Spotify nor Anna's Archive, but anyone tr…

Music should not be centralized.

Cool, feel free to create a website that does as much as lists track names and let me know how long will you survive before your hosting provider gets flooded with bullshit DMCA notices and shuts you down.

I'm not talking about downloading music, I'm not even talking about some custom player for reproducing music, I'm talking about just putting say a list of songs from a playlist as plain text online.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Ironic, since Spotify started by pirating music[0] [0] https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...

I vividly the scene release metadata still showing up in their player. I probably have screenshots of it somewhere...

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Ironic, since Spotify started by pirating music[0] [0] https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...

Same as Facebook: They got big by the Zuck sucking messages and content from MySpace - then Facebook afterwards lobbied to put laws in place to forbid this kind of 'interoperability' across platforms. Youtube started out 'allegedly' by members of their team uploading pirated hollywood movies (because they had no content), posing as users to fall under the "user-content" policy to make the company not liable. They are…

The YouTube thing doesn't sound right. They had a ¿10? minute video limit for a long time and it was really annoying to watch pirated stuff on there. Google Video had a lot of full movies before they bought YouTube and shut it down.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Ironic, since Spotify started by pirating music[0] [0] https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...

Same as Facebook: They got big by the Zuck sucking messages and content from MySpace - then Facebook afterwards lobbied to put laws in place to forbid this kind of 'interoperability' across platforms. Youtube started out 'allegedly' by members of their team uploading pirated hollywood movies (because they had no content), posing as users to fall under the "user-content" policy to make the company not liable. They are…

https://youtu.be/cBHouBDjqsc?si=Huil8xJys3VkYbGU

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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who updates wikipedia with the new domains? how do they know the new ones?

Does it matter? It's not illegal to update an article with a new domain.

Yes it does matter. Users need to know that the updated URL is correct and trustworthy.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Ironic, since Spotify started by pirating music[0] [0] https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...

Same as Facebook: They got big by the Zuck sucking messages and content from MySpace - then Facebook afterwards lobbied to put laws in place to forbid this kind of 'interoperability' across platforms. Youtube started out 'allegedly' by members of their team uploading pirated hollywood movies (because they had no content), posing as users to fall under the "user-content" policy to make the company not liable. They are…

Did Zuck really take messages and content? I know they had a certain "interoperability tool" that conveniently only worked in one direction but I didn't know it went that far
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