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Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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Two very public Nazi salutes without any attempt to deny it afterwards will certainly crater anyone's reputation. It's not really politics, but more a question of humanity, but then people don't become billionaires without having a contempt for others and a desire to underpay and mistreat everyone you come into contact with.

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No they haven't. You've likely been misled by seeing still images of their hand in that position, whereas if you see the video, then it's clearly nothing like a Nazi salute. Meanwhile, the video of Musk makes it incredibly clear that it's a Nazi salute and he has not denied that as far as I know.

His politics also seem to align very much with white supremacy and the far right.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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Tesla has an P/E Ratio of 332 (in comparison, Apple has 31.3) - the stock price is not based on measurable numbers so I don't think that the unsold EVs will have any consequences for the valuation. When reality finally sets in it will not be pretty. Source: At the End of https://asymco.com/2026/03/31/melius-highlights-fcf-while-re... Edit: typos

How far could this go?

As a thought experiment could you have a publicly traded company with zero revenue and zero assets. It’s literally paper. What would stop its stock from “mooning” if the Keynesian beauty contest or the global stock casino decided it should?

What mechanism pushes the other way? Nobody pays dividends anymore.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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Yes, Elon's trajectory has been absolutely unbelievable since 2019 or so. Talk about a guy who cratered his whole reputation. It's a shame.

Really? What was it you liked about him before, but not now?

The man lead an electric car company and a reusable rocket company to succes. What is not to like?

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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Tesla's FSD problem isn't the technology, it's the positioning. It's genuinely good at what it does but selling it as "Full Self-Driving" set an expectation it can't meet. If they had framed it as the best safety feature, always aware co-driver watching out for you, people would trust it far more and adoption would be much higher.

Good point, full self driving probably felt like marketing win back then... but now it is a liability. Rebranding now would just highlight all missed promises

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#138

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Two very public Nazi salutes without any attempt to deny it afterwards will certainly crater anyone's reputation. It's not really politics, but more a question of humanity, but then people don't become billionaires without having a contempt for others and a desire to underpay and mistreat everyone you come into contact with.

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Fair enough, I see that online all the time. Here’s my take.

Raising your hand alone is a common gesture that pretty much everyone has done. Saying “my heart goes out to you” gives plausible deniability. But making the hand gesture while clicking your heels together and snapping to attention with a stern jaw-jutting look on your face is pretty unmistakably a nazi salute.

Elon has publicly denied it was a nazi salute, but any normal person would go a step further and also disavow neo nazi ideology in the same breath. But doing that would break the dog whistle effect.

Some people say he’s just trolling, and yes, Elon likes to troll. But trolling or not, it has the same effect if you don’t also renounce neo nazism. It normalizes and shows you are comfortable with it.

Can I prove he’s a neo nazi? No I haven’t gone through his wallet and found his membership card. But his support for the AfD and all his great-replacement-theory adjacent talk are strong signals.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

I think the vast majority of people that operate at that level of success have a similar mask, but they’re more successful in managing it. What caused Elon to lose his ability to manage it is subject for debate, I personally believe he discovered drugs in 2019 and the rest is history.

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Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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post #34

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Yes, Elon's trajectory has been absolutely unbelievable since 2019 or so. Talk about a guy who cratered his whole reputation. It's a shame.

What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

Looks like ketamine therapy worked (I’m no shaming)?
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