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I had no idea that you could run Lineage on the Jelly Star! That sounds phenomenal. My dream phone is a Star running Graphene. But short of that, Lineage would be great. Any notes on your experience?
Not an author, but I've been using Jelly Star with a stock Android for 2 years. Actually, typing this comment right now with this phone. 1. Keyboard: MessagEase or ThumbKey + Jelly Star is a perfect match. 2. Bitwarden passkeys + Firefox doesn't work. As I've researched, same with LineageOS. Didn't check Chrome, though. 3. All apps work without issues. Banking, Google Wallet, taxi, etc. It's a regular Android. 4. Bat…
Americans/Canadians (and I guess Asians since they won't ship there) don't waste your time reading this, they have a Mediatek SoC and made the choice long ago to not touch these markets. The devices will not carry the band support needed for these markets. Europeans, I guess good luck, have fun. I followed them in the early days and ran early builds of Sailfish on the N9, had high hopes but have long given up on them…
> The devices will not carry the band support needed for these markets. Their technical specifications state: > Cellular: 4G + 5G with dual nano-SIM and global roaming modem configuration[0] Is that implying "global" is actually not global? [0] https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder
It was what I was implying.
I did find a better link: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26
LTE FDD: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28AB, 66 LTE TDD: 34, 38, 39, 40, 41 5G NR: n1, n2, n3, n5, n7, n8, n12, n20, n26, n28, n38, n40, n41, n66, n77, n78
So this is a strange band list for US, it can roam. It’s not ideal for any carrier outside of a city (n41, n77 2.5ghz/3.5ghz) supported, well maybe. n25 notably missing but subset n2 works via mbfi. band 71 missing for low-band tmobile rural coverage. 13 and 14 missing for firstnet/verizon lowband. Good to see n66.
Now setting that aside that yes, I was partially wrong, we got more bands than usual, it still needs to pass through certification and get IMS profiles from the US carriers to make calls.
Anyways, it’s possible things changed, they have new people in leadership, maybe they pivoted, I just don’t think it’s likely, I’ve yet to see a mediatek flagship or even upper mid-range that is well configured for US market.
Are these non Google non Apple phones viable any more? Considering you almost can't do banking, and in some places interact with the government, without a locked down phone...
The vast majority of people on this site can afford a couple hundred dollars for a basic Android phone that's used only for tasks like that, and as a bonus it's safer than having banking apps on your main phone. Anyone who isn't willing to spend a couple hundred bucks on the freedom to run whatever software they want on their phone probably doesn't consider software freedom a priority anyway.
Americans/Canadians (and I guess Asians since they won't ship there) don't waste your time reading this, they have a Mediatek SoC and made the choice long ago to not touch these markets. The devices will not carry the band support needed for these markets. Europeans, I guess good luck, have fun. I followed them in the early days and ran early builds of Sailfish on the N9, had high hopes but have long given up on them…
> The devices will not carry the band support needed for these [non-EU] markets. Would they have zero radio coverage, or sub-optimal coverage? Could be a feature for those wanting a Wi-Fi only mobile Linux device.
Sub-optimal for data if it allows attach. If they don’t have working IMS profile it may reject the attach at worst or just have no working calls/texts at best (we do not have fallback 2g/3g except for 911 on 2g with pockets of t-mobile). There is 911 IMS profile but it sometimes doesn’t work with foreign phones, its tricky: https://optimerainc.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/OptimERA_...
> Could be a feature for those wanting a Wi-Fi only mobile Linux device.
I’m sorry but this is cope for a phone. At that point just buy a better linux device not built on a complex phone soc, it’s not a phone then.
That camera bump, though. Maybe they could've shuffled components in such way, that phone would be overall smaller, but as deep as camera bump, to make whole back flat?
Are these non Google non Apple phones viable any more? Considering you almost can't do banking, and in some places interact with the government, without a locked down phone...
Are these non Google non Apple phones viable any more? Considering you almost can't do banking, and in some places interact with the government, without a locked down phone...
The vast majority of people on this site can afford a couple hundred dollars for a basic Android phone that's used only for tasks like that, and as a bonus it's safer than having banking apps on your main phone. Anyone who isn't willing to spend a couple hundred bucks on the freedom to run whatever software they want on their phone probably doesn't consider software freedom a priority anyway.
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Paying for things? Transferring money? What else do you do with a bank account?
If we were rational creatures we might choose to do such things while seated at home in front of a comfortably sized screen, rather than squinting at a pocket gadget on a street corner.
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infests is a nice freudian slip. When millions of dollars support a feature, that feature beats others- even technically superior ones, on the basis of support and polish. We’re all playing to the tune of what Google wants because Google has the power. Imagine a world where theres no Linux because MacOS and Windows paid lip service to people using partially functional derivatives of their OS’s, they’d still push thin…
If a product meets all of the needs of their users that's a good thing. It is a good thing to reward commercial entities for providing value to their users.