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MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Shits like this is what makes me wary about Chinese made video games proliferating in the west. You never know if your kid's genshing impact or black myth wukong is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. A competent Western administration would have banned it all years ago. But instead of securing the future of Western civilization, they want detente and cheap plastic goods instead. S…

> A competent Western administration

...because they have done so well with X, Meta and etc doing exactly the same thing.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #132

the gist author being new and the writing looking polished doesn't change that the log files are right there on disk for anyone to verify. ls the directory and read the output yourself.

>the writing looking polished

it's AI slop. And they obviously collect the Mac hardware ID because the emulator is DRM'd and the license & trial is bound to your HW ID.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?

There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

You're lucky if you truly live in a "Western" country where the throne isn't held by the enemy.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone from the EU, could I not use the argument to argue that for me it's both an adversarial country?

I see no harm if China use my data. But US companies are actually using my data against me.

It's still distasteful, but they aren't in a position to do me much direct harm, so there's that.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Yeah and that means the data that you share with Soundcloud. It's very different from: > ps aux # Every running process with full arguments If you think these two cases are even remotely comparable, I don't know what to tell you.

> data that you share with Soundcloud. I’m not in a position, nor do I have the skills, to fully validate exactly what I’m agreeing to. Let us assume that what I’m sharing is merely my app usage data: what I listen to, my likes, follows, comments, usage patterns, etc. They share this data with 954 “partners” - what exactly does this mean? What other data do those organisations have? Who do they share it with? I don’t…

I'm not sure why "954 partners" is surprising: log10(954) is between 2 and 3 so, if you assume Soundcloud uses at least 10 SaaS products to manage data (AWS, Snowflake, Datadog, etc. this number is definitely a low estimate). And then you assume each of those entities process the data through 10 partners of various kinds, it only takes 3 steps out to get 1,000.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

#137
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?

There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

Yet we have the current example of the United States.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone from the EU, could I not use the argument to argue that for me it's both an adversarial country?

And to be fair only US is openly hostile to EU.

Both the US and China are openly hostile to domestic populations.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

#139
post #42

I'm a little wary of believing this without confirmation. It certainly sounds like something an app from a big Chinese company might do, but the LLM writing style with em-dashes replaced by double hyphens looked like someone trying to hide that they use an LLM. And I noticed that the account for the Gist submission is only 3 hours old. And then looking here the account on HN is also only 3 hours old. Seems a little s…

Totally, Chinese software would never do anything like that. Shocking news, I say, shocking!

I didn't disagree with that?

"It certainly sounds like something an app from a big Chinese company might do"

Doesn't mean I want to blindly trust a random source about it though.

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