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High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39

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Not have to do it in the first place because of automated controls and fail-safes?

Sure, but in this case, those don't have exist and you need to make a tough choice, so which is it?

Not having fail-safes is the issue itself.

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#132

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Sure, but in this case, those don't have exist and you need to make a tough choice, so which is it?

Not having fail-safes is the issue itself.

So smart, do you not understand the question? Don't answer if you can't, instead of trying to weasel. You're acting like the Spanish politicians now.

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#133

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Bring up unrelated accidents strikes me as not being completely honest. Why you didn't mention that what you are talking about is a different train network where the accident was today? Maybe because it would make your point very weak, and you know this. That's why you seem "not relaxed".

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Source of you being intentionally misleading? Sure: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46675778

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> Maldita.es is founded by ex-employees of La Sexta, a TV channel known to be politically aligned with the socialist party (currently in the government). How does that relate to the Maldita.es article linked by GP commenter? The article starts by debunking a false claim that was made by a minister in the socialist government against the conservative regional government of Madrid.

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Does fact-checking a false statement made by a government minister make it a "politically-charged" news article?

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#135

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Does fact-checking a false statement made by a government minister make it a "politically-charged" news article?

I think is one of those "dont feed the troll" situations (which I may have failed myself just now too).

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No cause is known yet, but based on the videos, what’s the most likely reason for crashes? Bad tracks? Some human error resulting in collision?

What's the befit of speculating at this point? Let the investigators investigate, and hopefully some lessons will be learned.

Social? A lot of the bars/restaurants people go to in the morning for coffee/breakfast usually have news on the TV, and people usually talk with each other when big news happens.

This morning, big debates about what happened, whose fault it is, how safe/dangerous trains are, anecdotes from the past and jokes. Somber but lively discussions. Benefit is social cohesion with your neighbours and compatriots :)

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TIL. At first, when seeing it was in 2015 I was extremely surprised I didn't heard about it at the time. Then I saw the date: Nov 14th 2015, just the day after the ISIS terror attacks in Paris, France's 9/11. Of course we barely heard about a train crash at that time…

I remember this day because I worked in a company that made software for train networks. It did briefly made the news but not for long due to the terror attacks and also there wasn’t any passenger on this train, it was a train testing. In fact the story is even more tragic when you know that the day before, they also were too fast in the same turn and in the records you hear something like « few, that was close, bett…

> However, for sure this crash should have never happened but it only happened because they were testing the limits of both the train and the track.

No. It happened because they were under-prepared and disorganized, and thereby didn't respect the speed restrictions for the segment of track they were on.

They crashed entering a 175 km/h segment at 265 km/h, which is well above the 10% overspeed they were theoretically testing that day.

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According to current minister, the issues come from others before him, so it indeed makes sense to bring that up. Blaming others for the current underinvestment of the railway network is disingenuous.

Politicians always blame their predecessors.

That's the innovation of democracy. It allows a change of course without locking in policy.

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information war.

Is information war telling that the railway transport authority was aware of issues in the accident location for years?[1] [1]: https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20260119/adif-notifico-...

large parts of your post have been debunked.
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