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Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by pickleglitch »

throw0101a wrote: post #49
atonse wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is there any reason to not treat this as Wikipedia? As in, just suggest a correction?

>> I've been reading a lot of Don Delillo lately and so I wanted to see how Grokipedia page on him fares. > But is there any reason to not treat this as Wikipedia? As in, just suggest a correction? How? I see no "Edit" link on the article: * https://grokipedia.com/page/Don_DeLillo as compared to: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_DeLillo There is no "Talk" page as well, so if your change is 'contentious', how is co…

It looks like you have to be logged in to edit on crockipedia. I'm not willing to create an account to test this theory tho.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by Kye »

qcnguy wrote: post #128
Kye wrote: post #114

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>> "For many people it's obvious" [who?][citation needed] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template%3AWho Having standards for this stuff matters even if you don't always like the result.[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Word... >> "Weasel words are words and phrases aimed at creating an impression that something specific and meaningful has been said, when in fact only a vague or ambiguous…

Citation: go look at how many people are submitting edits to the articles. That is "many" people.

It's not my job to provide support for your point. Examples. It's trivial to cite them if they're in the edit log.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by flag_fagger »

Steltek wrote: post #126
qcnguy wrote: post #107

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[flagged]

It's very weird to assume good intentions or trustworthy info from Grokipedia but then hold up Wikipedia as "heavily poisoned". Your questions are based on a lot of assumptions that aren't widely shared.

I’m leaning paid shill tbh.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by rtkwe »

atonse wrote: post #91
rtkwe wrote: post #86

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Musks own tweets and words should be more than enough: Wokipedia: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1972991279706636437 Cleaning up a "mountain of woke bullshit" models are trained on: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1972991279706636437 He hasn't been subtle in the goal of this rewriting of wikipedia.

I think the parent was asking you for evidence of articles with bias, though. Not evidence of Musk making fun of Wikipedia. I’m also curious to see any egregious violations where grok also dug its heels in a biased way when presented with an edit/correction with credible evidence. I’d love to see some evidence of it. (Not in a sarcastic way, I’m genuinely asking)

It favors things like "Vaccine Skepticism", climate change, and some more esoteric topics like Gamergate. It's been well covered and when the owner says "we're going to make it biased so our AIs trained on it are less 'woke'" I'm willing to accept they're doing the bad thing they say they're doing.

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/808514/g...

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by IAmBroom »

echelon wrote: post #97
wahnfrieden wrote: post #95

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You consented to CC-BY-SA 3.0 (or 2.0)

Nobody dreamed of CC-BY-SA being used like this.

... which is pretty weak sauce. And legally moot; there is no "undreamt-of" protection in Black's Law Dictionary that I'm aware of.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by wahnfrieden »

echelon wrote: post #97
wahnfrieden wrote: post #95

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You consented to CC-BY-SA 3.0 (or 2.0)

Nobody dreamed of CC-BY-SA being used like this.

That's the risk of using open licenses. You don't get to restrict much.

It's ok to be outraged and to project norms or organize against it in various ways. But contractually it was consensual

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by raincole »

eruci wrote: post #137

The fact that certain people have such strong opinions about the recently released Grokipedia tells me the grok is actually on to something.

Every time anything related to Grok is posted here it gets flagged real quick.

I know it's just wishful thinking, but I lowkey hope Grok to be the final winner of this race.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by tencentshill »

qcnguy wrote: post #107
danabramov wrote: post #30

For me, the scary moment was seeing Grokipedia show up as one of the “sources” in a random Claude query a few days ago. Even if people don’t explicitly choose to use it, poisoning the well is working.

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It's democracy (as flawed as that can be) vs. one individual billionaire's personal AI.
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