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Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by lillecarl »

nusl wrote: post #44
lillecarl wrote: post #35

https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/pull/45#issuecomment-3592... Would this be grounds to report zigbook to GitHub maybe? This is wild

Grifter or not, editing user comments to make it look like they're saying something they're not isn't okay. Edit: It appears that the repo is gone? User removed it or GitHub?

I reported it to Github, supplied links to the edits and to this HN thread. The canned response was:

"Our review of the account(s) and/or content named in your report has concluded. We have determined that one or more violations of GitHub’s Terms of Service have occurred and have taken appropriate action in response."

It took 2h40m, genuinely impressed how quick the turnaround was :)

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by munificent »

NeckBeardPrince wrote: post #78
jonathrg wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

What would be a valid reason to allow this? That just seems mind-numbingly stupid.

I maintain the formatter for Dart, so a lot of my job involves maintaining the issue tracker for the formatter.

I use this feature all the time. Users get Markdown wrong, give titles to issues that don't make any sense, have typos, etc. Being able to edit issues helps me keep the issue tracker easier to understand and navigate for maintainers and users.

Every feature can be used. That doesn't mean every feature should not exist. The fact that the edit history is still visible means it's next to impossible to abuse the feature. It works fine.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by andrewflnr »

NoteyComplexity wrote: post #63
nusl wrote: post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

The responds and edits are simply unprofessional and immature. I don't hate AI and in fact I use it for many research based tasks, helping me narrowing a lot of tough topics, but it is the People with these kind of attitude turns me off.

I think the open abuse of people raising issues with the project is morally worse than the license issues or even lying about AI usage. Fraud is already bad, but someone can do that for reasons other than pure mean-spiritedness. To pull this nonsense, you have to actively take pleasure in making other people feel bad.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by freehorse »

pirates wrote: post #127
the8472 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

github is meant for collaboration, designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for everyone. Adding a function to report absusive edits rather than an entire post would be a better choice imo.

Report to whom? Github, who allows the behavior and therefore doesn’t see anything wrong with it, or the repo admins who have proven they they couldn’t give a rat’s ass about the very thing you’re reporting? The well is already poisoned, there is no reason to think that they’d suddenly change their stance and cooperate.

In this case at least, github (most probably) banned this account, presumably after reports. There are also other stories for github banning accounts for pr trolling kind of behaviours. So not sure if everything is perfect, but at least there are cases such things work.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by lenkite »

testdelacc1 wrote: post #75
lenkite wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Surely there’s nothing legally wrong with that? Incorrect. Not honoring the attribution requirement in the MIT license is a copyright infringement because it violates the terms of the license, which are legally enforceable conditions.

We are specifically talking about what the Zig project/foundation headed by Andy Kelley can do to such bad actors using the Zig trademark - which is exactly nothing. I wouldn't be so quick with the "incorrect" if I were you. You haven't even taken the trouble to read two sentences.

> I wouldn't be so quick with the "incorrect" if I were you. You haven't even taken the trouble to read two sentences.

I wouldn't be so quick with the dismissal if I were you. You haven't even taken the trouble to read the article.

Also, Quad erat demonstrandum - the infringing repo no longer exists.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by bigfishrunning »

tliltocatl wrote: post #124
lenkite wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is actually beginning to encourage "restricted source", public-only-gets-binary debates to simply avoid such legal issues. Write a snail-mail letter to get the real sources. Repositories are private with a small well-vetted list of contributors. Also avoid slop-PR headaches that away.

Sorry, this sounds like the absolutely worst idea ever. The way to kill open source as such. Sloppy PRs will end when the idiot HRs release there is no value in them. Plagiarism isn't really anything new and AI doesn't really change much there. But adding friction to examining source is a sure way to make no one care to contribute.

Honest question, what are "HR"s? I only know that acronym for "Human Resources" and I don't understand how that has anything to do with code contribution

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by koolala »

lioeters wrote: post #126
koolala wrote: post #16

Playground wise, is Zigs wasm compiler able to compile out simd wasm in the browser? I'm trying to find the best languages that can. So far it's just assemblyscript and c/c++ and their compilers are big.

I haven't dug deep but it seems Zig's Wasm target does support SIMD. > WebAssembly portable SIMD intrinsics https://codeberg.org/ziglang/zig/src/branch/master/lib/inclu...

The issue is I think that code is based on LLVM and and I am not sure the self-hosted Zig compiler that runs well in Wasm can do it.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by sysguest »

the8472 wrote: post #91
dannyfritz07 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allowing the maintainer to prepend a comment to the top seems more sensible to me to be honest. Would make API use harder potentially, but it would avoid weird abuse like this.

github is meant for collaboration, designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for everyone. Adding a function to report absusive edits rather than an entire post would be a better choice imo.

> designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for everyone

hmm... isn't this more of a 'personal viewpoint'? why are you stating this like a fact?

moreover, how would it "adding Edited by ~" constitute as a "loss for everyone" ?

I agree on adding "report abuse" button, but if no one notices that edit, how would anyone know what to report in the first place?

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by [deleted] »

ktm5j wrote: post #120
the8472 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that's not obvious at all. A single event is evidence that some abuse still happens, it does not tell us how much more abuse there would be in the counterfactual where the history wasn't available. discourage != prevent all

I get what you're saying, but I feel like they should highlight comments in some way if a repo admin completely replaces a comment with different text. I'm struggling to imagine a situation where that would really be appropriate. The "Edited by: username" seems too easy to overlook.

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by junon »

sysguest wrote: post #138
the8472 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

github is meant for collaboration, designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for everyone. Adding a function to report absusive edits rather than an entire post would be a better choice imo.

> designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for everyone hmm... isn't this more of a 'personal viewpoint'? why are you stating this like a fact? moreover, how would it "adding Edited by ~" constitute as a "loss for everyone" ? I agree on adding "report abuse" button, but if no one notices that edit, how would anyone know what to report in the first place?

It's personal but I agree with it. This is probably the first time I've seen it abused like this. I've been on GH for like 10-15 years.

Normally, repository maintainers are not self-sabotaging like this.

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