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Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'

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Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'

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Also European, and I partly agree. But I think they are "normal" left wing policies in Europe in the sense that parties in various countries/cities/regions have campaigned on them or implemented them. But my understanding of some US media is these are depicted as borderline communism.

Rent freezes are a normal thing for left wing politicians to campaign for, but very rare to actually implement.

Funny how rent freezes are a problem but minimum wage freezes aren’t.

Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'

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> You see this type of usage elsewhere, for instance "state" schools[1] Schools operated at the city/county level are called public schools in the US, no? So in the same vein these stores should either be called public or city stores. Note that the Guardian article instead talks about "city-run" and "municipal-run" grocery stores. And the reason I'm mentioning this is that "city-run" sounds harmless while "state run"…

>Schools operated at the city/county level are called public schools in the US, no? Right, I'm pointing out that "state" in the english language isn't limited to just US states. If you're not convinced by that, there's also "state" owned enterprises in countries that don't even have "states" (eg. China). >Note that the Guardian article instead talks about "city-run" and "municipal-run" grocery stores. And the reason…

I actually did live in "communism" with only state-run enterprises and let me assure you that scale is very far from the only difference.

> in countries that don't even have "states" (eg. China)

China is the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(polity)

Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'

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But it wasn't about how much tax they paid - it was about the idea of being taxed at all . I live in Switzerland. Here the general population have about as much a say about tax as one can imagine, from federal to municipal (gemeinde) level. And guess what? You'll find people here who are very upset about the taxes they pay. If people don't like a tax policy, they can vote against it. What they absolutely CANNOT do is…

> But it wasn't about how much tax they paid - it was about the idea of being taxed at all. I don't see a difference, fundamentally it comes down to consent of the governed. If 51% of a country votes for something, and it doesn't happen, then what's the point in voting?

At this point I don't know if you're trolling or being wilfully dull.

Yes, what you're describing is democracy. Yes, the premise of the system is that the majority vote decides on the rules/policy. Yes it would be bad if that were subverted.

But, for like the billionth time now:

- this is not what just happened with the NYC vote, and - it has absolutely nothing to do with the American Revolution.

If you're still somehow confused, I suggest reading up on these topics - Wikipedia [0][1] provides a wonderful start.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_New_York_City_mayoral_ele... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'

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> But it wasn't about how much tax they paid - it was about the idea of being taxed at all. I don't see a difference, fundamentally it comes down to consent of the governed. If 51% of a country votes for something, and it doesn't happen, then what's the point in voting?

At this point I don't know if you're trolling or being wilfully dull. Yes, what you're describing is democracy. Yes, the premise of the system is that the majority vote decides on the rules/policy. Yes it would be bad if that were subverted. But, for like the billionth time now: - this is not what just happened with the NYC vote, and - it has absolutely nothing to do with the American Revolution. If you're still some…

> But, for like the billionth time now:

nice, exaggeration, and more misrepresentation, see ya

Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'

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At this point I don't know if you're trolling or being wilfully dull. Yes, what you're describing is democracy. Yes, the premise of the system is that the majority vote decides on the rules/policy. Yes it would be bad if that were subverted. But, for like the billionth time now: - this is not what just happened with the NYC vote, and - it has absolutely nothing to do with the American Revolution. If you're still some…

> But, for like the billionth time now: nice, exaggeration, and more misrepresentation, see ya

You should really take the time to learn to construct cogent and substantive arguments to get your view across - you'll find it's a lot less counterproductive, especially on a forum like HN.

Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'

#137

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> But, for like the billionth time now: nice, exaggeration, and more misrepresentation, see ya

You should really take the time to learn to construct cogent and substantive arguments to get your view across - you'll find it's a lot less counterproductive, especially on a forum like HN.

You're the one who failed to comprehend my guy.

I was never talking about NYC, you assumed.

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