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as a rubyist, I'd second "cannot"
my coffee hadn't hit—that was my intention, the "cannot"
Add also at the bottom a short comment, so the other replies don't look wrong. Somethig like:
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NGL, the drama is entertaining. I'm sorry for Ruby people that are negatively impacted, tho. Lastly, Matz is the best!
So this whole thing stems from a dislike of DHH? It also seems like rubygems.org could simply fork the rubygems code, perform whatever 'security and governance' changes they believed were needed in their fork, and run with that? Isn't that the open source way of handling disagreements in direction?
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The broad-strokes story is: * DHH said some things on his blog that some people believe to be deeply racist / fascist (not going to unpack whether they were or not because answering that question is irrelevant to the fact pattern; consult other threads for that debate). * A Ruby conference run by Ruby Central was asked to deplatform him. Since he's the creator of Rails, they declined. * In response to their decision,…
This is missing an important part of the story that makes the Ruby Central side look relatively better, which is that one of the existing maintainers offered to help fill the funding gap in exchange for being allowed to monetize the server logs. https://rubycentral.org/news/rubygems-org-aws-root-access-ev...
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By not addressing HOW the project ended up in RC's hands, Matz is effectively whitewashing the move.
Unless there is some yet-unnamed party with enough credibility and enough money to do a proper takeover from Ruby Central, this was always the inevitable way forward. In my 17ish-year involvement with Ruby, I can't think of one.
These projects were not Ruby Central’s in the first place. They were stolen for Ruby Central by a Ruby Core insider, HSBT. This is horrible news. They were stolen from André Arko, Colby Swandale, David Rodríguez, Ellen, Josef Šimánek, Martin Emde and Samuel Giddins.
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I disagree. The actions are orthogonal to your claim - they eliminated everyone else from there. How is that not hostile? Duckinator has been 100% right here. > we gave stewardship of RubyGems I didn't sign anything. I also remember the original creators of rubygems. How old is Ruby Central? 10 years? 15 years? There were several years before that.
Ruby Central started in 2001. I was one of the early Board members, along with Chad Fowler and David Alan Black. We put on every Ruby conference until Ruby became more popular to support multiple conferences. We started coding RubyGems (although the name originated in 2001 at the first RubyConf in Florida) in 2003 at the RubyConf in Austin TX. We sat around a table the first night with a CVS repo on a USB drive and p…
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Is that a religion now? The pickaxe guys coined it. People repeat it without thinking about it. If matz were to say "jump from the bridge", people would do it, because matz is nice? Just to point out: I do think matz is nice and a great language designer. That in itself doesn't mean anything. Why would I proxy my own decisions based on any mindless slogan? That makes no sense. Why do people in the ruby ecosystem keep…
I know what you mean about mindless aspirational slogans. "No child left behind" is logically the same as "no child gets ahead". But trying to convince the Ruby community to be nice, by the example of their founder, isn't in that category. And if Matz told me to jump off of a bridge, he has enough stored up credibility that I'd at least consider it.
The statement is ambiguous. I interpret it as "no child left behind THE STANDARD FOR THEIR AGE". In that interpretation, other kids being ahead of that standard doesn't mean the other kids have to be behind the standard. Every kid could be not "left behind" the standard even if some are ahead of the standard.
Of course, NCLB has a lot of other issues, but I think the name isn't the issue.
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The broad-strokes story is: * DHH said some things on his blog that some people believe to be deeply racist / fascist (not going to unpack whether they were or not because answering that question is irrelevant to the fact pattern; consult other threads for that debate). * A Ruby conference run by Ruby Central was asked to deplatform him. Since he's the creator of Rails, they declined. * In response to their decision,…
It's news to me that the RubyCentral event had anything to do with DHH at least directly. You are alleging that Shopify was retaliating. Do you have any reliable context that Shopify was acting in a retaliatory manner?
Given the power dynamics, the burden of proof is on Shopify to proove it wasn't retaliating at the behest of, or in a misguided attempt to defend DHH's honor.
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> "No child left behind" is logically the same as "no child gets ahead" If by both statements you mean "all children must be in exactly the same position", yes ... but that's a wilfully obtuse interpretation.
It seems to be to be literal rather than obtuse to observe that it is necessary for some children to fall behind in order for others to get ahead. The slogan on its face is a wish for equality of outcome. But it's catchier than ”no child failing to meet minimum standards”.
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What languages do you use that have adopted this well? I'm not counting something like C++ where there's effectively no "packages" to speak of.
Go, for some values of "distributed". The vast majority of go packages are hosted on GitHub, but nothing stops anyone from hosting elsewhere and Go has explicit support for indirection such that anyone can use a vanity domain that happens to point at GitHub or wherever.