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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by pbiggar »

adastra22 wrote: post #58
notjosh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

your comment is helpful context, especially as a foreigner. but would you be able to edit the "pounding in the ass" phrase out in future when referring to prison? thank you <3

Your comment is understandable as a foreigner! Look up our federal prison system sometime. The description is apt. You either kill someone, or become someone's bitch on the first day, then you'll be alright. (It's an Office Space reference, btw, but our prisons are genuinely inhumane and not rehabilitative.)

It's the phrasing. You're using a fun and casual term for something awful. You are correct about the amount of sexual assault in American prison of course.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by akho »

Schnitz wrote: post #38
ivan_gammel wrote: post #10

The stupid thing about those indiscriminate sanctions is that it goes against the very values the West is pretending to defend. EU charter of Human Rights is explicit about condemning collective responsibility, universal declaration of human rights demands justice to be applied reasonably and individually, yet here we are: punishing people without trial. Do those sanctions even work? North Korea still builds nuclear…

Sanctions work, but not in the way that is the common public perception. The expectation isn’t that Russia or whoever falls apart a few weeks after we lock them out of Visa payment rails or whatever. The reality is that the sanctions stifle economic growth and that effect is compounding. Even if sanctions only reduce growth by 1 percentage point, after ~19 years your economy is already 20% smaller than it would be wi…

> Now imagine trying to start a software business in Iran, the stifling effect is way higher than a measly percentage point.

Depriving Iranians of legal access to Western tools opens the market to locals. I suspect that the market is big enough to build a business.

It'difficult to assess gdp impact in this particular area. It's not really dependent on blockable imports.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

mirzap wrote: post #123
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #118

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> A hot war would be far more costly for the U.S. …we just had a hot war with Iran. It probably cost us less than our sanctions. I’ll say this: you’re consistent in your position and I respect that. I just don’t think many people share the view that people getting physically torn apart by munitions is better than have a less-comfortable, possibly borderline, life.

My point exactly. It lasted 12 days. How much did it cost? How much you think would cost 5 years of war with Iran? And how much did sanctions cost Iranians (economy + lives) past 40 years. Afghanistan war costed 2t for 20 years of war. That number would be reached withing months in a war with Iran.

> How much you think would cost 5 years of war with Iran? And how much did sanctions cost Iranians (economy + lives) past 40 years

Idk, how much?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by tgma »

adastra22 wrote: post #29
palmfacehn wrote: post #18

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From the article: >I read hackernews on a daily basis and I visit lots of different websites regularly. I am almost always on my VPN as I am internally firewalled by the government and externally shooed because of the sanctions, so I am probably missing some of these heart-warming messages: >>Iranian IPs are blocked here, due to your decision to arm Russia with drones so that they can indiscriminately massacre civili…

Countries with "Democratic" and "Republic" in their name rarely are.

Or rather if you start aiming for democracy (the actual definition, not the 200 co-opted bastardized definitions,) that's where you always end up, as people from Plato to American founding fathers clearly understood.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by js8 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #109
adastra22 wrote: post #98

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They are literal slaves. The 13th amendment of the constitution: > Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, *except as a punishment for crime* whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Slavery is still legal in the United States of America.

> They are literal slaves. It's legal to enslave them, but in general it isn't true that they actually are enslaved.

I downvoted you. Reason - I don't see/understand what argument are you making. It seems you're just stating the claim.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by trhway »

aarroyoc wrote: post #19

These sanctions are not really effective. I think Cuba is the country that has had them for the most amount of time and... Nothing changed. Instead they force them to develop in house tech which may be better for them in the long term

If the sanctions weren't effective Russia wouldn't be insisting on the lifting of the sanctions as a part of any Ukrainian deal.

The sanctions significantly slow down Russian development and are more and more making it into just a mineral mining satellite of China. With time the weakened Russia would just split, and the large eastern part will go to China. Some midparts, with Turkic speaking population may even fall into Turkey orbit. Without the oil and gas rich East, the European part of Russia will be just a destitute village on the far margins of civilized Europe as it had been for centuries in the past.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by WhereIsTheTruth »

reeredfdfdf wrote: post #84

Most educated Iranians hate their government. The problem is that a revolution isn't easy when the government has all the guns, and the military & revolutionary guard remain loyal, and have no problem with shooting masses of innocent civilians to retain their power. Sanctions that worsen things for ordinary people really isn't going to change much in countries like this. It would be much more productive to try turn t…

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by wojciii »

aarroyoc wrote: post #19

These sanctions are not really effective. I think Cuba is the country that has had them for the most amount of time and... Nothing changed. Instead they force them to develop in house tech which may be better for them in the long term

Ukrainian sanctions work.

Ask a russian about the price of fuel.

The European sanctions are more of a joke.

I you want to Ukraine to win donate to them directly instead of waiting for the cowardly politicians to get their act together.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by thayne »

vasco wrote: post #70
palmfacehn wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: >I read hackernews on a daily basis and I visit lots of different websites regularly. I am almost always on my VPN as I am internally firewalled by the government and externally shooed because of the sanctions, so I am probably missing some of these heart-warming messages: >>Iranian IPs are blocked here, due to your decision to arm Russia with drones so that they can indiscriminately massacre civili…

Only way to widthraw consent in a democracy is moving to pay your taxes somewhere else.

Which is very difficult to do. Even if you ignore that doing so often means leaving behind your home, friends, family, culture, job, etc. to go to somewhere unfamiliar. Most countries, especially the countries that you would want to move to, don't just let you in because you want to. You probably need to have a job lined up, there may be a lottery, it will almost certainly be expensive, etc. And if you are in certain authoritative regimes, you don't just have to worry about another country letting you in, your home country might not let you out.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by thaumasiotes »

js8 wrote: post #135
thaumasiotes wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are literal slaves. It's legal to enslave them, but in general it isn't true that they actually are enslaved.

I downvoted you. Reason - I don't see/understand what argument are you making. It seems you're just stating the claim.

I'm contradicting the claim. Prisoners aren't slaves. They could be enslaved, but they aren't. They are never sold into slavery and almost never compelled to do any work.

This is the opposite of being "literal slaves". They are literally not slaves.

...unless you believe that before the 17th century, everyone in the world was literally a slave? It was legal to enslave them too.

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