Events like this always remind me of President George W. Bush's timeless saying: "Freedom is on the march!"
Chat Control Must Be Stopped
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#132> Chat Control would make it mandatory for all service providers (text messaging, email, social media, cloud storage, hosting services, etc.) to scan all communications and all files (including end-to-end encrypted ones), in order to supposedly detect whatever the government deems "abusive material." I wonder why there has been such silence on this, with the exception of a handful of well written blog posts. The scop…
"including end-to-end encrypted ones" How? If they're end-to-end encrypted, they really can't be monitored unless there's a flaw in the encryption system. Don't trust messages to systems that aren't auditable.
The thing is although your exact message text is end-to-end encrypted, the messages are scanned locally on the device and information about your messages is sent out-of-band to whereever it needs to go.
this is happening now on most* services.
* ok, not every single one.
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#133It seems like the golden age of freedom is behind us for now, and we’re going to descend for a while back into nationalism and authoritarianism
Funniest part is, current EU politicians are setting these systems up just as nationalist and authoritarian politicians (their adversaries) start to dominate the scene. Introducing this now seems like self-sabotage.
Or … part of the plan
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#134They control the guns, so you can't fight back with bullets. They control the airwaves, so you can't fight back with ideas. You're running out of options.
The next step is to control your mind.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wonder why there has been such silence on this Yes, I would think that if there were any real journalism left, they would be all over this. For the sake of their profession, and the protection of their sources.
Cory Doctorow points out a lot of things: https://pluralistic.net/ But I don't think mainstream journalism points out computer nonsense because they're so intertwined with it all. I mean, "we have a surveillance state" first points to "advertising" which is their revenue stream.
Quite the leap IMO, I actually think the strongest defense of the status quo is pointing out how much worse things could be
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#136It seems like the golden age of freedom is behind us for now, and we’re going to descend for a while back into nationalism and authoritarianism
WW2 was the immense shock that gave us that golden age of the 1960s-1990s. But WW2 is now a distant memory for most.
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> Some thoughts if you have them, are illegal to express, even in private, for your own consumption. fuck this attitude with a rake
In the UK we take this a step further – if you're by an abortion clinic and the police believe you could be praying in your head for those getting an abortion they can charge you. There are also examples where the people have been charged for retweeting opinions or sharing lyrics which are considered grossly offensive. Although I suppose in these cases you could at least argue something is being expressed.
I am curious what would happen if one of those people tried to pray while having a sign above their head that said “I’m praying for to win their next game”
Could they still arrest you?
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Totally. This is exactly the problem with things like Chat Control in the EU and KOSA in the US. They will just introduce the same bill over and over and over again until they get the desired result. What we need is for legislatures to pass "NO Chat Control" and "NO KOSA" bills that specifically block this behavior, but unsurprisingly governments don't seem to be too keen about limiting their own rights, only those o…
You mean enshrine a right to messaging privacy in a constitution? That's going to be difficult.
The US constitution already has a provision against unreasonable search properly enshrined, and well tested in courts. Things like KOSA can be rejected as clearly violating it.
The EU does not seem to have such simple and ironclad norm.
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"According to data from Nielsen, Fox News — from the period spanning June 20 through Sept. 1 — finished as the no. 1 network in all of broadcast television during the primetime hours of 8-11 PM. During those hours, Fox News averaged 2.43 million total nightly viewers in primetime — topping ABC at 2.38 million, NBC at 2.21 million, and CBS at 2.03 million. It is the second time in the network’s history they accomplish…
"It sure seems like at least 1/3rd of the population has a FOX brainworm infection" - you had me right until you pulled this completely out of thin air. All the main news outlets totalling less than 9 million viewers? That's not compelling at all.
Appreciate it- thanks for the feedback. I was admittedly being inflammatory, much in the spirit of the network we are discussing. In my perception it was not always this way and when it first came out I remember liking it. It was generally "fair and balanced" as their slogan was (they dropped it around 2017 when Obama left the WH). I have only been paying attention the last 30 years or so, and what started with AM radio on the fringe seems to have become mainstream in the last 25 years since 9/11 basically and has accelerated to the point we are at now in the US.
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Chat control will require client-side AI scanning of all messages, bypassing end-to-end encryption. Since the AI will be an unauditable blackbox, it will make it effectively illegal to have secure end-to-end encryption. Yes, it is that fascist.
I predict a massive uptick in linux use
How long until hardware vendors prevent you from installing a certified OS that is specifically not anything like linux? Before you call it a conspiracy, know that we are already there with our phones, which represent an overwhelming share of consumer compute use today.