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Claude Opus 4.1

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Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by ryandrake »

potatolicious wrote: post #120
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When people post this stuff, it's like, are you also confused that Nike sells shoes AND shorts AND shirts, and there's different colors and skus for each article of clothing, and sometimes they sell direct to consumer and other times to stores and to universities, and also there's sales and promotions, etc, etc? It's almost as if companies sell more than one product. Why is this the top comment on so many threads abo…

Eh, this seems like a take that reeks a bit of "everyone is stupid except me". I do know the answer to OP's question but that's because I pickle my brain in this stuff. It is legitimately confusing. The analogy to different SKUs strikes me also inaccurate. This isn't the difference between shoes, shirts, and shorts - it's more as if a company sells three t-shirts but you can't really tell what's different about them.…

> It's Claude, Claude, and Claude. Which ones code for you?

Thanks for articulating the confusion better than I could! I feel it's a similar branding problem as other tech companies have: I'm watching Apple TV+ on my Apple TV software running on my Apple TV connected to my Google TV that isn't actually manufactured by Google. But that Google TV also has an Apple TV app that can play Apple TV+.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by WXLCKNO »

mrcwinn wrote: post #79

o3 and o3-pro are just so good. Sonnet goes off the deep end too often and Opus, in my experience, is not as strong at reasoning compared to OpenAI, despite the higher costs. Rarely do we see a worse, more expensive product win - but competition is good and I’m rooting for Anthropic nonetheless!

o3 feels pretty good to me as well but o3-pro has consistently one shotted problems other LLMs got stuck on.

I'm talking multiple tries of claude 4 opus, Gemini 2.5 pro, o3 etc resulting in sometimes hundreds of lines of code.

Versus o3-pro (very slowly) analyzing and then fixing something that seemed completely unrelated in a one or two line change and truly fixing the root cause.

o3-pro level LLMs at reduced cost and increased speed will already be amazing..

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by tomrod »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #95
AlecSchueler wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what's complicated about what you're describing? They offer two models and you can pay more for higher usage limits, then you can choose if you want to run it in your browser or in your terminal. Like what else would you expect? Fwiw I have a Claude pro plan and have no interest in using other offerings so I'm not sure if they're super simple (one model, one interface, one pricing plan)?

When people post this stuff, it's like, are you also confused that Nike sells shoes AND shorts AND shirts, and there's different colors and skus for each article of clothing, and sometimes they sell direct to consumer and other times to stores and to universities, and also there's sales and promotions, etc, etc? It's almost as if companies sell more than one product. Why is this the top comment on so many threads abo…

> Why is this the top comment on so many threads about tech products?

Because you overestimate the difference that the representative person understands.

A more accurate analogy is that Nike sells green-blue shoes and Nike sells blue-green shoes, but the blue-green shoes add 3 feet to your jump and green-blue shoes add 20 mph to your 100 yard dash sprint.

You know you need one of them for tomorrow's hurdles race but have no idea which is meaningful for your need.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by samtp »

OldGreenYodaGPT wrote: post #98

Claude Code has honestly made me at least 10x more productive. I’ve burned through about 3 billion tokens and have been consistently merging 5+ PRs a day, tackling tons of tech debt, improving GitHub Actions, and making crazy progress on product work

What type of work do you do and what type of code do you produce?

Because I've found it to work pretty amazingly for things that don't need to be exact (like data modeling) or don't have any security implications (public apps). But for everything else I end up having to find all the little bugs by reading the code line by line, which is much slower than just writing the code in the first place.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by AstroBen »

OldGreenYodaGPT wrote: post #98

Claude Code has honestly made me at least 10x more productive. I’ve burned through about 3 billion tokens and have been consistently merging 5+ PRs a day, tackling tons of tech debt, improving GitHub Actions, and making crazy progress on product work

only 10x? I'm at least 100x as productive. I only type at a measly 100wpm, whereas Claude can output 100+ tokens a second

I'm outputting a PR every 6 minutes. The reviewers are using Claude to review everything. It used to take a day to add 100 lines to the codebase.. now I can add 100 lines in one prompt

If I want even more productivity (at risk of making the rest of my team look slow) I can tell Claude to output double the lines and ship it off for review. My performance metrics are incredible

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by mwigdahl »

adastra22 wrote: post #92
monatron wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great use case for sub-agents IMO. By default, sub-agents use sonnet. You can have opus orchestrate the various agents and get (close to) the best of both worlds.

Is there a way to get persistent sub-agents? I'd love to have a bunch of YAML files in my repository, one for each sub-agent, and have those automatically used across all Claude Code instances I have on multiple machines (I dev on laptop and desktop), or across the team.

Yep: https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/claude-code/sub-agents

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by levocardia »

haaz wrote: post #9

it is barely an improvement according to their own benchmarks. not saying thats a bad thing, but not enough for anybody to notice any difference

"You pay $20/mo for X, and now I'm giving you 1.05*X for the same price." Outrageous!

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by vanillax »

ryandrake wrote: post #60

Am I the only one super confused about how to even get started trying out this stuff? Just so I wouldn't be "that critic who doesn't try the stuff he criticizes," I tried GitHub Copilot and was kind of not very impressed. Someone on HN told me Copilot sucks, use Claude. But I have no idea what the right way to do it is because there are so many paths to choose. Let's see: we have Claude Code vs. Claude the API vs. Cl…

All the tools, copilot,claude, gemini in vscode are all completely worthless unless in Agent Mode. I have no idea why none of these tools dont default to Agent mode.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by ActorNightly »

ryandrake wrote: post #60

Am I the only one super confused about how to even get started trying out this stuff? Just so I wouldn't be "that critic who doesn't try the stuff he criticizes," I tried GitHub Copilot and was kind of not very impressed. Someone on HN told me Copilot sucks, use Claude. But I have no idea what the right way to do it is because there are so many paths to choose. Let's see: we have Claude Code vs. Claude the API vs. Cl…

If you want your own cheap IDE integration, you can set up VSCode with Continue extension, ollama running locally, and a small agent model. https://docs.continue.dev/features/agent/model-setup.

If you want to understand how all of this works, the best way is to build a coding agent manually. Its not that hard

1. Start with Ollama running locally and Gemma3 QAT models. https://ollama.com/library/gemma3

2. Write a wrapper around Ollama using your favorite language. The idea is that you want to be able to intercept responses coming back from the model.

3. Create a system prompt that tells the model things like "if the user is asking you to create a file, reply in this format:...". Generally to start, you can specify instructions for read file, write file, and execute file

4. In your wrapper, when you send the input chat prompt, and get the model response back, you look for those formats, and make the wrapper actually execute the action. For example if the model replies back with the format to read file, you read the file from your wrapper code and send it back to the model.

Every coding assistant is basically this under the hood with just a lot more fluff and their own IDE integration.

The benefit of doing your own is that you can customize it to your own needs, and when you direct a model with more precision even the small models perform very well with much faster speed.

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